Can you please help identify the disease?

[findingDory]

I got this flame angel couple of days back. It was good for couple of days but now it is starting to show some sluggishness. Please help to identify what this could be.

 

[Spare time]

#reefmedic

 

[Spare time]

Looks to me like brook or velvet but velvet would kill faster. If it is brook, paraguard is the right medicine (or last resort rally pro if you absolutely can't make a qt). If it is velvet, you need to do copper asap.

 

[Spare time]

The reason why I didn't say velvet 100% is the fact the angel is still alive.

 

[findingDory]

I hope and pray its not velvet

 

[findingDory]

The reason why I didn't say velvet 100% is the fact the angel is still alive.

Could be brooks because it was in a tank that had clowns.

 

[vetteguy53081]

This may very well be brooklynella. I thought maybe velvet but the fins appear clear and if velvet , the fish would be hanging at the tank surface.
Other Velvet symptoms would be :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body

With brook, the fishs' colors fade and heavy slime develops on its body as shown. Lesions may appear on skin as well as signs of bacterial issues.

Is fish eating ?
Is fish hanging near surface?
How is breathing rate- Moderate or Rapid?

With either case, at times a freshwater dip with tap water the same temp as display tank will offer temporarily relief. . However if fish is breathing rapidly, A dip may further stress the fish out
Treatment will be in a separate tank using either quick cure or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Could be brooks because it was in a tank that had clowns.

Fish can get brook without presence of clowns as brook is a ciliated bean shaped protozoan affecting clowns, tangs, angels and wrasses

 

[Spare time]

I hope and pray its not velvet

I the sugary coating reminds me of velvet but again, fish die from this within a day so it would be suprising if the whole tank was not having issues and that a fish would show symptoms for days.

Again, if it is brook, paraguard and a fallow period are best, but ruby reef rally pro may or may not work but is safe in tank (things that are reef safe are often parasite safe too).

 

[findingDory]

Thank you, guys. I have added PraziPro to the whole tank and have turned off Skimmer and UV as per the direction given in the bottle. I will keep you all posted. Thanks Again and @Spare time @vetteguy53081

 

[findingDory]

This may very well be brooklynella. I thought maybe velvet but the fins appear clear and if velvet , the fish would be hanging at the tank surface.
Other Velvet symptoms would be :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body

With brook, the fishs' colors fade and heavy slime develops on its body as shown. Lesions may appear on skin as well as signs of bacterial issues.

Is fish eating ?
Is fish hanging near surface?
How is breathing rate- Moderate or Rapid?

With either case, at times a freshwater dip with tap water the same temp as display tank will offer temporarily relief. . However if fish is breathing rapidly, A dip may further stress the fish out
Treatment will be in a separate tank using either quick cure or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.

Is fish eating ?
No, it is not eating. I tried feeding it live brine shrimp as well. No luck but it is pecking the algae on the glass.

Is fish hanging near surface?
Yes, It is mostly found hanging near the surface
How is breathing rate- Moderate or Rapid?
the breathing seems to be normal for now.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Is fish eating ?
No, it is not eating. I tried feeding it live brine shrimp as well. No luck but it is pecking the algae on the glass.

Is fish hanging near surface?
Yes, It is mostly found hanging near the surface
How is breathing rate- Moderate or Rapid?
the breathing seems to be normal for now.

Im thinking yet- brook. Velvet will get to the gills as brook , mucus may develop causing Labored breathing.
Lets invite @Jay Hemdal to see what his thoughts are

 

[Spare time]

Thank you, guys. I have added PraziPro to the whole tank and have turned off Skimmer and UV as per the direction given in the bottle. I will keep you all posted. Thanks Again and @Spare time @vetteguy53081

Prazipro doesn't do anything for these diseases.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Im thinking yet- brook. Velvet will get to the gills as brook , mucus may develop causing Labored breathing.
Lets invite @Jay Hemdal to see what his thoughts are

I agree, if this was velvet the key symptom would be gasping/rapid breathing. Brook seems the most likely cause….
A short video might help…..
Jay

 

[findingDory]

Thanks Jay. Here is a short video of the fish.

 

[findingDory]

Looks like the upload failed. I will load the video in youtube and share the link. Sorry about that.

 

[findingDory]

Youtube link:

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Youtube link:

It doesn't appear to be breathing too quickly.

Can you clarify - was the fish eating well for you and then it stopped feeding, or has it not fed well from the start?

Jay

 

[MnFish1]

I the sugary coating reminds me of velvet but again, fish die from this within a day so it would be suprising if the whole tank was not having issues and that a fish would show symptoms for days.

Again, if it is brook, paraguard and a fallow period are best, but ruby reef rally pro may or may not work but is safe in tank (things that are reef safe are often parasite safe too).

Agree with everything said - except - I'm not sure you can say velvet or not based on 'time'. Velvet can kill quickly - and fish can survive velvet (i.e. get better without treatment).

 

[John Smoak]

I got this flame angel couple of days back. It was good for couple of days but now it is starting to show some sluggishness. Please help to identify what this could be.