Beneficial Bacteria Question

[dawi03]

hi all i was wondering if anyone can help.

Ive got a Waterbox 20, and bought a full scape with some corals from someone so it was basically established which was fantastic. Had the scape in the tank for 2 weeks but have noticed vermited snails and lots of different critters, and am thinking I want a fresh start and want to take all corals off rock, dry rock out for a month to kill snails mainly, and then put corals back on scape ( I love the scape thats all)Ive put my first fish in the tank ( Lineatus Blenny).

My question is ive had the scape in the tank for nearly 3 weeks now, would the bacteria or good bio bacteria populated onto my bio media in my chamber by now? so by me doing this im not going to completely stuff the tank?

In a slight pickle with this

Thanks!

 

[Reef.]

If you have sand etc then it could be ok but its hard to give a straight yes or no with so little facts to go off.

You could add a bottle fritz turbo start 900 to be safe when you remove the rock.

Also keep in mind that just removing the rock may not rid you of the unwanted critters, you could be back to where you are now in a few months if you don’t remove them all, and what if you reintroduce others down the line, maybe use the effort you are going to use to restart, to rid and learn how to get rid of unwanted pests, as they are probably not going to be the only ones you have in the future.

 

[dawi03]

If you have sand etc then it could be ok but its hard to give a straight yes or no with so little facts to go off.

You could add a bottle fritz turbo start 900 to be safe when you remove the rock.

Also keep in mind that just removing the rock may not rid you of the unwanted critters, you could be back to where you are now in a few months if you don’t remove them all, and what if you reintroduce others down the line, maybe use the effort you are going to use to restart, to rid and learn how to get rid of unwanted pests, as they are probably not going to be the only ones you have in the future.

basically what i was going to do is cut off the corals, coral dip them so it rids them of critters, put them back in tank for now with a temporary scape for my blenny, and have the rock sit in the sun for a month to completely kill everything off?

 

[dawi03]

Bummmmppp help

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

Personally I would not try this, its seems like too much work, it could easily become a disaster. and honestly, the rocks will soon end up with vermatids and other worms anyway, you can't stop it.

 

[GARRIGA]

If life on that rock not wanted then bleaching the best solution and quickest. As mentioned above, bacteria in a bottle can get bacteria started but you'll have a new cycle and sand left behind might have life that was also on rocks not wanted. Corals to be added back might also have that not wanted unless dipped and put through QT. Sometimes easier to start from scratch and sometimes easier to just attack the singular problem. Key is grasping the consequences of both before getting started.

 

[gbroadbridge]

hi all i was wondering if anyone can help.

Ive got a Waterbox 20, and bought a full scape with some corals from someone so it was basically established which was fantastic. Had the scape in the tank for 2 weeks but have noticed vermited snails and lots of different critters, and am thinking I want a fresh start and want to take all corals off rock, dry rock out for a month to kill snails mainly, and then put corals back on scape ( I love the scape thats all)Ive put my first fish in the tank ( Lineatus Blenny).

My question is ive had the scape in the tank for nearly 3 weeks now, would the bacteria or good bio bacteria populated onto my bio media in my chamber by now? so by me doing this im not going to completely stuff the tank?

In a slight pickle with this

Thanks!

I wouldn't destroy a working ecosystem because of a few undesirables

They will find their way back into your tank no matter how hard you try

 

[twentyleagues]

If you pull all the scape out and dry it out you will still have a bunch of dead organic matter on the rock in a month unless you do something about that before it goes back in the tank. Bleach or acid bath the rock allow it to dry power wash it to remove anything left before it goes back in the tank and causes havoc. At this point you may as well get new rock for your scape. I would look at less invasive means of managing your current issue and go your route in a last chance scenario. As stated above those snails are in your sand and filtration system they will recolonize the scape eventually.

 

[dawi03]

I wouldn't destroy a working ecosystem because of a few undesirables

They will find their way back into your tank no matter how hard you try

yeah i think im coming to that realisation, i dont think the vermatids are harming anything either

 

[Dburr1014]

hi all i was wondering if anyone can help.

Ive got a Waterbox 20, and bought a full scape with some corals from someone so it was basically established which was fantastic. Had the scape in the tank for 2 weeks but have noticed vermited snails and lots of different critters, and am thinking I want a fresh start and want to take all corals off rock, dry rock out for a month to kill snails mainly, and then put corals back on scape ( I love the scape thats all)Ive put my first fish in the tank ( Lineatus Blenny).

My question is ive had the scape in the tank for nearly 3 weeks now, would the bacteria or good bio bacteria populated onto my bio media in my chamber by now? so by me doing this im not going to completely stuff the tank?

In a slight pickle with this

Thanks!

This will set you back.

I fully understand the ocd of wanting a perfect reef without all the undesirable creatures that come with it. Just read the last 2 or 3 pages of my build thread.

Instead of drying out the rock(which may or may not kill vermetid Snails) and still wanting to rid some vermetid Snails, pull each rock piece and simply cut them off at the base with electrical dykes. Replace the rock where it was. Shouldn't take to long with a small tank.

 

[lil sumpin]

get a small army of bumblebee snails

 

[taricha]

To agree with others... mature systems are very desirable, and I personally can't think of any pest that I would kill off the system's mature reef rock to get rid of.

(others will disagree with that personal judgment.)

 

[Timfish]

Personally I would not try this, its seems like too much work, it could easily become a disaster. and honestly, the rocks will soon end up with vermatids and other worms anyway, you can't stop it.

I wouldn't destroy a working ecosystem because of a few undesirables

They will find their way back into your tank no matter how hard you try

This will set you back.

What they said.

I've been living with vermitid worms for 4 decades. I definitely would not teat apart a reef to get rid of them.

 

[dawi03]

What they said.

I've been living with vermitid worms for 4 decades. I definitely would not teat apart a reef to get rid of them.

Yep I agree now I’ll just live with it!!