All About Reef Safe Wrasses in Aquaria

shadow1013 · May 8, 2020

Thank you. Wasn’t sure what the best way to say easy name was lol

Why haven’t they been imported? That rare?

OrionN said:
That is the name of this species. It is not imported, as far as I know (not that I know a lot about this topic) so there is not a common name, other than Alfian's Flasher wrasse.

evolved said:
I am a bit confused, as that is the name. The common name is simply Alfian's Flasher.
But as OrionN says, it is not available in the trade as it stands.

Mrod · May 8, 2020

Hunter is awesome!! Excellent article and thank you for helping us all with such great information!

evolved · May 8, 2020

shadow1013 said:
Why haven’t they been imported? That rare?

Just because a species exists, doesn't mean it's in the trade. (Collection logistics and permits drive most of what's available)
"rarity" is often a bit misused - when we use that term in the trade, it's meant only to say it's rarely collected, not actually rare in natural occurrence.

Mrod said:
Hunter is awesome!! Excellent article and thank you for helping us all with such great information!

Thank you!

shadow1013 · May 9, 2020

Thank you. Was wondering why since I saw the post on Reef Builder was from 2016. It looks amazing so I hope it will be available one day.

evolved said:
Just because a species exists, doesn't mean it's in the trade. (Collection logistics and permits drive most of what's available)
"rarity" is often a bit misused - when we use that term in the trade, it's meant only to say it's rarely collected, not actually rare in natural occurrence.

solo_reef · May 11, 2020

Hello

i have two wrasses in QT.
My problem is how can i transfer them to DT they burry them selfs in the sand bed ? And how many hours should i acclimation them ?

evolved · May 12, 2020

solo_reef said:
i have two wrasses in QT.
My problem is how can i transfer them to DT they burry them selfs in the sand bed ?

Experience.

But really, they're pretty easy to catch once you've got a trained hand at it. If they bury, you can always scoop them out, sand and all, into a collection cup.

solo_reef said:
And how many hours should i acclimation them ?

Ideally, your QT temp, pH, and salinity should all match your DT by the time you're done with QT. And if those 3 parameters do match, acclimation isn't really necessary.

HairyGary · May 12, 2020

evolved said:
Experience. But really, they're pretty easy to catch once you've got a trained hand at it. If they bury, you can always scoop them out, sand and all, into a collection cup.

Ideally, your QT temp, pH, and salinity should all match your DT by the time you're done with QT. And if those 3 parameters do match, acclimation isn't really necessary.

This. Far less stress on the fish. Good luck!

solo_reef · May 12, 2020

evolved said:
Experience. But really, they're pretty easy to catch once you've got a trained hand at it. If they bury, you can always scoop them out, sand and all, into a collection cup.

Ideally, your QT temp, pH, and salinity should all match your DT by the time you're done with QT. And if those 3 parameters do match, acclimation isn't really necessary.

Thanks alot . I ask because some people said if you take the wrasses from the sand they will be panic and die;/ but now i will try your way

Dempsey941 · May 14, 2020

So reading this article for like the 10th time it makes me want to fill the void my McCosker's left.

Current 40 Breeder Stocking:
2x Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
1x Royal Gramma (Gramma loreto)
1x Orange Spot Shrimp Goby (Amblyeleotris guttata)
1x Yellow "Not-So-Coris" Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus)
1x Longnose Hawk (Oxycirrhites typus)
1x Bangaii Cardinal (Pterapogon kauderni)

Presently looking at the Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus flavianalis) and the Blue Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus cyaneus) as potential options on their own if not both.

Assuming I introduced them at the same time would a 36" tank give them both enough swimming space to coexist or would I be better off getting one?

evolved · May 14, 2020

Dempsey941 said:
Presently looking at the Yellowfin Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus flavianalis) and the Blue Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus cyaneus) as potential options on their own if not both.

Assuming I introduced them at the same time would a 36" tank give them both enough swimming space to coexist or would I be better off getting one?

You'd probably be okay with both, but it does come with some risk of conflict, of course. So if that concerns you, one is definitely safer.

Dempsey941 · May 14, 2020

evolved said:
You'd probably be okay with both, but it does come with some risk of conflict, of course. So if that concerns you, one is definitely safer.

Risk of Conflict is my middle name

Evieeeeee · May 15, 2020

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Hey evolved what do you think of the wrasse gallon rating in this guide? I'm planning on setting up a 40 gallon 23.62” x 19.68” x18.89” aquarium (refugium, skimmer, separate pod culture) and wanted 2 or 3 wrasses to go into the aquarium. I was thinking the melanurus , yellow and carpenter flasher wrasse but I'm getting mixed answers on if the melanurus and yellow wrasses can be kept in a 40 gallon or not. Would they be ok to be kept in a 40 alone or in that group?

Also unrelated to the question above, would a Blue Star Leopard Wrasse or another smaller leopard wrasse be okay in a 40 gallon in your opinion? Would really love to keep one but it seems that 40 is likely too small for these guys?

evolved · May 15, 2020

Evieeeeee said:
Hey evolved what do you think of the wrasse gallon rating in this guide?

Strongly disagree with all of them, sans for the possum and pink streak.

Evieeeeee said:
I'm planning on setting up a 40 gallon 23.62” x 19.68” x18.89” aquarium (refugium, skimmer, separate pod culture) and wanted 2 or 3 wrasses to go into the aquarium. I was thinking the melanurus , yellow and carpenter flasher wrasse but I'm getting mixed answers on if the melanurus and yellow wrasses can be kept in a 40 gallon or not. Would they be ok to be kept in a 40 alone or in that group?

Unfortunately, a 40 is not big enough for most all Halichoeres wrasses. It will work for Paracheilinus, though.

Evieeeeee said:
Also unrelated to the question above, would a Blue Star Leopard Wrasse or another smaller leopard wrasse be okay in a 40 gallon in your opinion? Would really love to keep one but it seems that 40 is likely too small for these guys?

And it's also not big enough for Macropharyngodon either, I'm afraid.

Evieeeeee · May 15, 2020

evolved said:
Strongly disagree with all of them, sans for the possum and pink streak.

Unfortunately, a 40 is not big enough for most all Halichoeres wrasses. It will work for Paracheilinus, though.

And it's also not big enough for Macropharyngodon either, I'm afraid.

Thanks! So in the 40 I should stick to possum/pink streak + flashers as my options? Passing on 6 line based on past experiences.

evolved · May 15, 2020

Evieeeeee said:
Thanks! So in the 40 I should stick to possum/pink streak + flashers as my options? Passing on 6 line based on past experiences.

Those are safe bets!
There's a few Cirrhilabrus in the smallest complexes that could work, too.

TommyDelaney · May 15, 2020

@evolved would there be any of the fairy wrasses that would do well in a 40 cube?

evolved · May 15, 2020

TommyDelaney said:
@evolved would there be any of the fairy wrasses that would do well in a 40 cube?

What are the tank dimensions?
In a standard 3' long 40, there are a couple complexes that can. But if it's only 2' long, I wouldn't recommend any. It just doesn't offer enough swimming space.

Cirrhilabrus Complexes: Inferiority Need Not Apply (1st Revision)

Cirrhilabrus, the “Fairy Wrasses”, are one of the most elegant, active, and colorful reef fish. Their appeal in a reef tank is common to many, but not all have a well-rounded understanding of the compatibility amongst them. Enter the notion of “complexes”: groupings of very closely related...

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TommyDelaney · May 16, 2020

evolved said:
What are the tank dimensions?
In a standard 3' long 40, there are a couple complexes that can. But if it's only 2' long, I wouldn't recommend any. It just doesn't offer enough swimming space.

Cirrhilabrus Complexes: Inferiority Need Not Apply (1st Revision)

Cirrhilabrus, the “Fairy Wrasses”, are one of the most elegant, active, and colorful reef fish. Their appeal in a reef tank is common to many, but not all have a well-rounded understanding of the compatibility amongst them. Enter the notion of “complexes”: groupings of very closely related...

www.reef2reef.com

It’s a 2x2x2 cube, I guess I will just pass, thanks.