Alk is rising 0.1dkh per day. I'm already at 11.8 and I'm leaving on vacation in 6 days.

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Co2 definately has a bearing on ph and with lower c02 goes higher ph. As for macro algae, it will indeed consume trace but perhaps a different way to dose it would be in order. Yet, with a good regiment of wc it should be fine. Do you icp to have an idea on trace consumption? Is it an icp-ms? Here's my ph after I left for vacation on Saturday i.e. 3 less humans and 2 less dogs in the house. I use soda ash but have been lucky with higher ph as where my tank is happens to be a big open living space and probe is calibrated. For now, if you do a 10-15% waterchange every week and a half or so your salt should provide everything needed for what you have. My tank is acro heavy and that worked for me for a long time.

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Does the Hanna Alk checker works with RoDi? I could test it tonight and see if I have been adding alk by accident.

If it is 0-1 ppm tds it has no significant alk.
 
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If it is 0-1 ppm tds it has no significant alk.
RODI TDS meter was at 1 ppm on sunday.

Il'l check with the hanna tonight in my container. If the RODI is the issue, Il'l swap the membrane and resin.

The things is, it will go past 12dkh if the issue is not stopped before I leave.
 

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RODI TDS meter was at 1 ppm on sunday.

Il'l check with the hanna tonight in my container. If the RODI is the issue, Il'l swap the membrane and resin.

The things is, it will go past 12dkh if the issue is not stopped before I leave.

At 1 ppm tds, it cannot be any significant source of alk.

I’d still not do anything, but a water change with a low alk mix is a good solution before you leave with no risk of a new something going wrong.
 

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The FM organic may be the source, depending on exactly which organics they use. When you get back, I’d experiment with not using it.

Slow upward alk creep can also happen from slow dissolution of sand. The best way to deal with that is through water changes with a low alk mix. You can make any salt mix as low in alk as you want, using sodium bisulfate or muriatic acid.
 
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The FM organic may be the source, depending on exactly which organics they use. When you get back, I’d experiment with not using it.

Slow upward alk creep can also happen from slow dissolution of sand. The best way to deal with that is through water changes with a low alk mix. You can make any salt mix as low in alk as you want, using sodium bisulfate or muriatic acid.
By how much can I drop the tanks alk by doing a waterchange ?
how often are your wc's? and are u adding anything besides salt to your rodI? and how much do u change out?
Once a week 10% nothing is added
 
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Went to my LFS and bought a Hanna reagent and went home asap.

Lights on
Salinity 34.7ppt

Hanna:
200ppm - 11.181 dkh
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Salifert:
In between lilac and pink gave me the same results of 0.28ml - 11.2dkh
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I have read that the lilac/pink is more accurate then the hard pink with salifert and it looks to be true...

I achieved a bright pink at 0.26ml for dkh of 11.5
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So it's safe to assume that my Alk is still high compared to what my salt mixes at (8.6 dkh). It should be mixing at 7.8dkh at 35 ppt.


Is it my sand?
Tank is still young at 8 months in with Aragonite sand.

Is it my Organic Trace element ?
Could be, I lowered the dose since yesterday by half.

Is it my RoDi?
At 1 ppm TDS I doubt it. Sadly I can't use the Hanna for freshwater, maybe can I use the Salifert? Let me know

A petstore near me has the Seachem Acid Buffer (sodium bisulfate). I will test alk at the same time Tomorrow and the day after and adjust the alk with a new saltwater batch to lower it by 0.5dkh depending on the level it's at.

( 0.9 * 11.1 ) + ( 0.1 * 6) = 10.59dkh
 
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Part 2

I made a 300ml - 35 ppt solution of my Reef Salt bucket and got a result of 144ppm aka 8.0 dkh.


Salifert also gave me a lilac/pink at .47 which is around 8.0-8.3

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By how much can I drop the tanks alk by doing a waterchange ?

Once a week 10% nothing is added

A 10% change using near zero alk water will lower it 10%, or just over 1 dKH. If you use 7 dKH salt mix, it will drop by about 0.5 dKH.
 
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Tonights Alkalinity test

Hanna: 200ppm / 11.18 dkh

Salifert: 0.28-0.29 ml / 11.2 dkh

It seems that reducing the dosage did the trick.. Maybe the alk is now inbalance with the consumption and the dosing.

Will test again thursday and friday at 16pm.
 

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It seems that reducing the dosage did the trick.. Maybe the alk is now inbalance with the consumption and the dosing.

Will test again thursday and friday at 16pm.

Dose of what?
 
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Ah, ok. What are you hoping it accomplishes?
Stop my Alk from rising each day?

It seems to be a carbon source, which might be reducing my elevated nitrates causing my Alk to raise a bit each day or 2.

I don't know. It's the only thing being added to the tank that wasn't before 2 months ago and now my alk is higher and sometime raising.
 

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I doubt my Hanna and Salifert test kit are broken.. A user error is more probable.

The Hanna reagent was expire not long ago so I bought a Salifert test kit but it still gave me the same results has my hanna.

I know something doesn't make sense haha.

My parameters are:
Temp 78-79
Salinity 34.6
Alk 11.8
Calcium 440
Mag 1340-1350
Nitrate 25.9
Phos 0.06
Ph is a 8.0 using the salifert test kit.

I have a baseball size clump of dragon's breath in my display. Started has a golf ball size. Not much coraline algae..

All my corals look fine.
how often do you recalibrate your tools? I had a similar issue from going off what i assumed was an accurate refractometer.
The other suspicion i had was a concentration of alkalinity from using the end of a pail of salt that is driving the values up.
 
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how often do you recalibrate your tools? I had a similar issue from going off what i assumed was an accurate refractometer.
The other suspicion i had was a concentration of alkalinity from using the end of a pail of salt that is driving the values up.
Hanna salinity pen -Monthly
Refractometer - Before each use

My salt bucket is new.
 
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