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Before we get into this, I am doing this from a quote in another thread from Jay where he said he did an experiment with many angels and most of them were 80% of their wild/maximum recorded size. So off of this, I have taken a list of angels (The most common ones kept in captivity) with the help of Zionas and I have taken their wild size and done this calculation:
Biggest recorded Wild size x 0.8. As you go further down the list you will see ECS and MWS, this is basically me being lazy and not wanting to type out the full words.
Dwarf Angels:
1. Coral Beauty (Centropyge Bispinosa)
Maximum wild size: around 4 inch
Estimated captive size: 3”
2. Flame (Centropyge Loricula)
Maximum wild size: Around 4”
Estimated captive size: 3”
3. Potter’s (Centropyge Potteri)
Maximum wild size: 5”
Estimated captive size: 4”
4. Multicolor (Centropyge Multicolor)
Maximum wild size: 3.5”
Estimated captive size: 2.8” (3” most likely)
5. Bicolor (Centropyge Bicolor)
Maximum wild size: 6”
Estimated captive size: 4.8” (5” most likely)
6. Keyhole (Centropyge Tibicen)
Maximum wild size: 8” (This shocked me more than I thought it would)
Estimated captive size: 6.4” (Could get to 6 and a half”)
7. Lemonpeel (Centropyge Flavissima)
Maximum wild size: 5.5”
Estimated captive size: 4.4” (could possibly hit 4 and a half”)
8. Eibli (Centropyge Eibli)
MWS: 6”
ECS: 4.8” (5” possible)
9. Half-Black (Centropyge Vrolikii)
MWS: 5”
ECS: 4”
10. Rusty (Centropyge Ferrugata)
MWS: 4”
ECS: 3.2”
11. Cherub (Centropyge Argi)
MWS: 3”
ECS: 2.5”
12. African / Brazilian Flameback (Centropyge Acanthops / Centropyge Aurantonotus)
MWS: 2.5”
ECS: 2”
13. Yellowtail Pygmy / Fisheri (Centropyge Flavicauda / Centropyge Fisheri)
MWS: 3”
ECS: 2”
14. Joculator (Centropyge Joculator)
MWS: 3”
ECS: 2.5”
15. Japanese Pygmy (Centropyge Interrupta)
MWS: 6”
ECS: 4.8” (5” possible)
16. Shephard’s (Centropyge Shepardi)
MWS: 4.7” (ECS based from 5”)
ECS: 4”
17. Multibar (Paracentropyge Multifasciata)
MWS: 4.7” (Same as above)
ECS: 4”
18. Venusta (Paracentropyge Venusta)
MWS: 5”
ECS: 4”
19. Colin’s (Paracentropyge Colini)
MWS: 3.4”
ECS: 2.75” (3” possible)
20. Herald’s (Centropyge Heraldi)
MWS: 4”
ECS: 3.2”
21. Yellow-Fin (Centropyge Flavipectoralis)
MWS: 4”
ECS: 3.2”
22. Multi-Spined (Centropyge Multispinus)
MWS: 5.5”
ECS: 4.4”
Apolemichthys:
1. Xanthurus Cream / Red Sea Cream (Apolemichthys xanthurus/ xanthotis)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
2. Flagfin (Apolemichthys trimaculatus)
MWS: 10.2”
ECS: 8”
3. Goldflake (Apolemichthys xanthopunctata)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
4. Griffis (Apolemichthys griffisi)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
5. Tiger (Apolemichthys kingii)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
6. Bandit (Apolemichthys arcuatus)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
Genicanthus:
1. Lamarck’s (Genicanthus lamarck)
MWS: 9”
ECS: 7.2”
2. Spot Breast (Genicanthus melanospilos)
MWS: 7”
ECS: 5.6”
3. Bellus (Genicanthus bellus)
MWS: 7”
ECS: 5.6”
4. Watanabei (Genicanthus watanabei)
MWS: 6”
ECS: 4.8” (5” more likely)
5. Japanese Masked Swallowtail (Genicanthus semifasciatus)
MWS: 9”
ECS: 7.2”
6. Masked Swallowtail (Genicanthus personatus)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
Pygoplites:
1. Regal (Pygoplites diacanthus)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
Chaetodontoplus:
1. Scribbled (Chaetodontoplus doublayi)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
2. Blue Line / Maze / Orange Faced (Chaetodontoplus septentrionalis/ Chaetodontoplus cephalareticulatus / Chaetodontoplus chrysocephalus)
MWS: 8.5”
ECS: 6.8” (7” most likely)
3. True Personifer (Chaetodontoplus personifer)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
4. False Personifer / Meredith’s (Chaetodontoplus meredithi)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
5. Conspicuous (Chaetodontoplus conspicullatus)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
6. Black Velvet (Chaetodontoplus melanosoma)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
7. Singapore (Chaetodontoplus mesoleuceus)
MWS: 7”
ECS: 5.6”
8. Blue Spotted (Chaetodontoplus caruleopunctatus)
MWS: 5.5”
ECS: 4.4”
(Am I missing any?)
Pomacanthus:
1. Koran (Pomacanthus semicirculatus)
MWS: 15”
ECS: 12”
2. Emperor (Pomacanthus imperator)
MWS: 16”
ECS: 12”
3. Grey (Pomacanthus arcuatus)
MWS: 17”-24” (17”-19” is more commons)
ECS: 13”-19.2”
4. French (Pomacanthus paru)
MWS: 16”-24” (16” is more common)
ECS: 13”-19.2”
5. Asfur (Pomacanthus asfur)
MWS: 16”
ECS: 12.8”
6. Maculosus / Half-Moon (Pomacanthus maculosus)
MWS: 20”
ECS: 16”
7. Majestic (Pomacanthus navarchus)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
8. Blue Faced (Pomacanthus xanthometopon)
MWS: 15”
ECS: 12”
9. Six-Bar (Pomacanthus sexstriatus)
MWS: 18”
ECS: 14.4”
10. Blue Ringed (Pomacanthus annularis)
MWS: 17.6”
ECS: 14”
11. Ear Spot (Pomacanthus chrysurus)
MWS: 17.6”
ECS: 14”
12. Cortez (Pomacanthus zonipectus)
MWS: 19”
ECS: 15.2”
13. Old Woman (Pomacanthus rhomboides)
MWS: 18”
ECS: 14.4”
Holacanthus:
1. King / Passer (Holacanthus passer)
MWS: 14”
ECS: 11”
2. Queen (Holacanthus ciliaris)
MWS: 18”
ECS: 14.4”
3. Blue (Holacanthus bermudensis)
MWS: 15”
ECS: 12”
4. Clarion (Holacanthus clarionensis)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
5. Rock Beauty (Holacanthus tricolor)
MWS: 14”
ECS: 11”
6. African / Guinean (Holacanthus africanus)
MWS: 18”
ECS: 14.4”
7. Clipperton (Holacanthus limbaughi)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
This is just an estimated guess at how big most of your angelfish will get, it’s not a 100% confirmed size. My guess is Atleast 90% or angels will get to these sizes in captivity, but you can’t take the max wild size out of the picture.
I hope this helps someone! I planned to do this thread about 10-20 minutes before it was posted when I was watching another thread (Also with Zionas in it). I will probably use this with the angels I would love in my fish tank (Blue face, and Emperor).
Biggest recorded Wild size x 0.8. As you go further down the list you will see ECS and MWS, this is basically me being lazy and not wanting to type out the full words.
Dwarf Angels:
1. Coral Beauty (Centropyge Bispinosa)
Maximum wild size: around 4 inch
Estimated captive size: 3”
2. Flame (Centropyge Loricula)
Maximum wild size: Around 4”
Estimated captive size: 3”
3. Potter’s (Centropyge Potteri)
Maximum wild size: 5”
Estimated captive size: 4”
4. Multicolor (Centropyge Multicolor)
Maximum wild size: 3.5”
Estimated captive size: 2.8” (3” most likely)
5. Bicolor (Centropyge Bicolor)
Maximum wild size: 6”
Estimated captive size: 4.8” (5” most likely)
6. Keyhole (Centropyge Tibicen)
Maximum wild size: 8” (This shocked me more than I thought it would)
Estimated captive size: 6.4” (Could get to 6 and a half”)
7. Lemonpeel (Centropyge Flavissima)
Maximum wild size: 5.5”
Estimated captive size: 4.4” (could possibly hit 4 and a half”)
8. Eibli (Centropyge Eibli)
MWS: 6”
ECS: 4.8” (5” possible)
9. Half-Black (Centropyge Vrolikii)
MWS: 5”
ECS: 4”
10. Rusty (Centropyge Ferrugata)
MWS: 4”
ECS: 3.2”
11. Cherub (Centropyge Argi)
MWS: 3”
ECS: 2.5”
12. African / Brazilian Flameback (Centropyge Acanthops / Centropyge Aurantonotus)
MWS: 2.5”
ECS: 2”
13. Yellowtail Pygmy / Fisheri (Centropyge Flavicauda / Centropyge Fisheri)
MWS: 3”
ECS: 2”
14. Joculator (Centropyge Joculator)
MWS: 3”
ECS: 2.5”
15. Japanese Pygmy (Centropyge Interrupta)
MWS: 6”
ECS: 4.8” (5” possible)
16. Shephard’s (Centropyge Shepardi)
MWS: 4.7” (ECS based from 5”)
ECS: 4”
17. Multibar (Paracentropyge Multifasciata)
MWS: 4.7” (Same as above)
ECS: 4”
18. Venusta (Paracentropyge Venusta)
MWS: 5”
ECS: 4”
19. Colin’s (Paracentropyge Colini)
MWS: 3.4”
ECS: 2.75” (3” possible)
20. Herald’s (Centropyge Heraldi)
MWS: 4”
ECS: 3.2”
21. Yellow-Fin (Centropyge Flavipectoralis)
MWS: 4”
ECS: 3.2”
22. Multi-Spined (Centropyge Multispinus)
MWS: 5.5”
ECS: 4.4”
Apolemichthys:
1. Xanthurus Cream / Red Sea Cream (Apolemichthys xanthurus/ xanthotis)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
2. Flagfin (Apolemichthys trimaculatus)
MWS: 10.2”
ECS: 8”
3. Goldflake (Apolemichthys xanthopunctata)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
4. Griffis (Apolemichthys griffisi)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
5. Tiger (Apolemichthys kingii)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
6. Bandit (Apolemichthys arcuatus)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
Genicanthus:
1. Lamarck’s (Genicanthus lamarck)
MWS: 9”
ECS: 7.2”
2. Spot Breast (Genicanthus melanospilos)
MWS: 7”
ECS: 5.6”
3. Bellus (Genicanthus bellus)
MWS: 7”
ECS: 5.6”
4. Watanabei (Genicanthus watanabei)
MWS: 6”
ECS: 4.8” (5” more likely)
5. Japanese Masked Swallowtail (Genicanthus semifasciatus)
MWS: 9”
ECS: 7.2”
6. Masked Swallowtail (Genicanthus personatus)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
Pygoplites:
1. Regal (Pygoplites diacanthus)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
Chaetodontoplus:
1. Scribbled (Chaetodontoplus doublayi)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
2. Blue Line / Maze / Orange Faced (Chaetodontoplus septentrionalis/ Chaetodontoplus cephalareticulatus / Chaetodontoplus chrysocephalus)
MWS: 8.5”
ECS: 6.8” (7” most likely)
3. True Personifer (Chaetodontoplus personifer)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
4. False Personifer / Meredith’s (Chaetodontoplus meredithi)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
5. Conspicuous (Chaetodontoplus conspicullatus)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
6. Black Velvet (Chaetodontoplus melanosoma)
MWS: 8”
ECS: 6.4”
7. Singapore (Chaetodontoplus mesoleuceus)
MWS: 7”
ECS: 5.6”
8. Blue Spotted (Chaetodontoplus caruleopunctatus)
MWS: 5.5”
ECS: 4.4”
(Am I missing any?)
Pomacanthus:
1. Koran (Pomacanthus semicirculatus)
MWS: 15”
ECS: 12”
2. Emperor (Pomacanthus imperator)
MWS: 16”
ECS: 12”
3. Grey (Pomacanthus arcuatus)
MWS: 17”-24” (17”-19” is more commons)
ECS: 13”-19.2”
4. French (Pomacanthus paru)
MWS: 16”-24” (16” is more common)
ECS: 13”-19.2”
5. Asfur (Pomacanthus asfur)
MWS: 16”
ECS: 12.8”
6. Maculosus / Half-Moon (Pomacanthus maculosus)
MWS: 20”
ECS: 16”
7. Majestic (Pomacanthus navarchus)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
8. Blue Faced (Pomacanthus xanthometopon)
MWS: 15”
ECS: 12”
9. Six-Bar (Pomacanthus sexstriatus)
MWS: 18”
ECS: 14.4”
10. Blue Ringed (Pomacanthus annularis)
MWS: 17.6”
ECS: 14”
11. Ear Spot (Pomacanthus chrysurus)
MWS: 17.6”
ECS: 14”
12. Cortez (Pomacanthus zonipectus)
MWS: 19”
ECS: 15.2”
13. Old Woman (Pomacanthus rhomboides)
MWS: 18”
ECS: 14.4”
Holacanthus:
1. King / Passer (Holacanthus passer)
MWS: 14”
ECS: 11”
2. Queen (Holacanthus ciliaris)
MWS: 18”
ECS: 14.4”
3. Blue (Holacanthus bermudensis)
MWS: 15”
ECS: 12”
4. Clarion (Holacanthus clarionensis)
MWS: 10”
ECS: 8”
5. Rock Beauty (Holacanthus tricolor)
MWS: 14”
ECS: 11”
6. African / Guinean (Holacanthus africanus)
MWS: 18”
ECS: 14.4”
7. Clipperton (Holacanthus limbaughi)
MWS: 12”
ECS: 9.6”
This is just an estimated guess at how big most of your angelfish will get, it’s not a 100% confirmed size. My guess is Atleast 90% or angels will get to these sizes in captivity, but you can’t take the max wild size out of the picture.
I hope this helps someone! I planned to do this thread about 10-20 minutes before it was posted when I was watching another thread (Also with Zionas in it). I will probably use this with the angels I would love in my fish tank (Blue face, and Emperor).
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