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I would dump the firefish. It will likely hide 24/7 in that tank. I like the black-capped basslet over the gramma. Maybe a yellow assessor.
You think so? I figured the wrasses might give it confidence to swim around the tank, or the opposite will happen and it’ll hide BECAUSE there’s so many fast swimmers around it haha

I just love the gramma’s gradual color change over the others, yellow assessor is a close runner up too. Whichever comes in stock first will go in the tank, they’re imported fish here, not always available. Hmm.. only one basslet per tank right?
 

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I love clowns too but everybody already has one haha I might get a pair but I wouldn’t know when to add them, first in or maybe after the wrasses?
I always get babies and add them first. I love watching them grow :)
 
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I always get babies and add them first. I love watching them grow :)
I’m tempted. I mean it’s like a rite of passage, right? Haha everybody has to have a pair. I’m also tempted to put a Kleini on the list HAHA hopefully mine won’t be a bully.

5 butterflies in a 4ft might be too much though so kleini isn’t decided yet. The genicanthus pair is better for some variety in the tank.
 

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I’m tempted. I mean it’s like a rite of passage, right? Haha everybody has to have a pair. I’m also tempted to put a Kleini on the list HAHA hopefully mine won’t be a bully.

5 butterflies in a 4ft might be too much though so kleini isn’t decided yet. The genicanthus pair is better for some variety in the tank.
I would avoid that fish! Mine is t a bully he just irritates the F out of all my fish and ticks them off! Annoying fish!
 
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Haha I’m teasing. Yeah I remember Poop the Kleini butterfly, when are you planning to remove him?

Great colors but I might get a bully so I’m picking the Latticed butterfly over it for that yellow coloration.
 

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Haha I’m teasing. Yeah I remember Poop the Kleini butterfly, when are you planning to remove him?

Great colors but I might get a bully so I’m picking the Latticed butterfly over it for that yellow coloration.
ASAP lol
 

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Speaking of corallivores, how’s the ornatissimus? Last I watched it was eating prepared food. Funny that, I was also planning on the baronessa/triangulum down the line if I’m ever successful with the easy ones. We get lots here, eating pellets and flakes! Like, I couldn’t believe it haha I’ll try to find the video this wholesaler sent me. Couldn’t tell you if they thrive or not though.

Just a tip, give it a few years before delving in to the obligate corallivores. I’ve just recently felt that I had the needed knowledge to have a good shot at taking care of these things properly and that’s with 20+ years of reefing. These things are something else in terms of husbandry. They basically have all the traits that makes them very challenging to keep in captivity. Difficulty feeding, sensitive to disease, easily bullied, needs a constant supply of food etc etc.

I’d advise you to sharpen your teeth in some easier corallivores first. The orange spotted file fish is a good candidate.

I got a trifasciatus and melapterus about three months ago. After a lot of food training I got them over to prepared foods and the melon is now even eating flakes of the water surface.
Sadly the melapterus came in with a bacterial infection that I never managed to get rid of. It ate very well but sadly passed away after a couple of months.
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Over the weekend I picked up a baronessa that is now chilling in my conditioning tank.
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Luckily the owner of my LFS special orders these things to me directly from the exporters which really helps. They do horrible in the supply chain.

Oh yeah, always quarantine your butterflies (I would recommend a non medicated QT with live rock). They almost always come in with flukes and you will need to do repeated freshwater dips.
 

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Just a tip, give it a few years before delving in to the obligate corallivores. I’ve just recently felt that I had the needed knowledge to have a good shot at taking care of these things properly and that’s with 20+ years of reefing. These things are something else in terms of husbandry. They basically have all the traits that makes them very challenging to keep in captivity. Difficulty feeding, sensitive to disease, easily bullied, needs a constant supply of food etc etc.

I’d advise you to sharpen your teeth in some easier corallivores first. The orange spotted file fish is a good candidate.

I got a trifasciatus and melapterus about three months ago. After a lot of food training I got them over to prepared foods and the melon is now even eating flakes of the water surface.
Sadly the melapterus came in with a bacterial infection that I never managed to get rid of. It ate very well but sadly passed away after a couple of months.
1717397151027.jpeg


Over the weekend I picked up a baronessa that is now chilling in my conditioning tank.
1717397230160.jpeg


Luckily the owner of my LFS special orders these things to me directly from the exporters which really helps. They do horrible in the supply chain.

Oh yeah, always quarantine your butterflies (I would recommend a non medicated QT with live rock). They almost always come in with flukes and you will need to do repeated freshwater dips.
Wow that melon butterfly is beautiful! I love the orange one but cant ever find it anywhere!
 
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Just a tip, give it a few years before delving in to the obligate corallivores. I’ve just recently felt that I had the needed knowledge to have a good shot at taking care of these things properly and that’s with 20+ years of reefing. These things are something else in terms of husbandry. They basically have all the traits that makes them very challenging to keep in captivity. Difficulty feeding, sensitive to disease, easily bullied, needs a constant supply of food etc etc.

I’d advise you to sharpen your teeth in some easier corallivores first. The orange spotted file fish is a good candidate.

I got a trifasciatus and melapterus about three months ago. After a lot of food training I got them over to prepared foods and the melon is now even eating flakes of the water surface.
Sadly the melapterus came in with a bacterial infection that I never managed to get rid of. It ate very well but sadly passed away after a couple of months.
1717397151027.jpeg


Over the weekend I picked up a baronessa that is now chilling in my conditioning tank.
1717397230160.jpeg


Luckily the owner of my LFS special orders these things to me directly from the exporters which really helps. They do horrible in the supply chain.

Oh yeah, always quarantine your butterflies (I would recommend a non medicated QT with live rock). They almost always come in with flukes and you will need to do repeated freshwater dips.
Omg Viking Reefing! I feel like I'm talking to a celebrity :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing: Big fan of your channel and I admire how you challenge yourself and how you apply your years of experience with taking care of these fish that are deemed impossible to keep. I got really excited when you uploaded your video on the corallivore butterflies, they're like holy grail fish for me.

Yes, I will definitely NOT be attempting to keep these obligate corallivores anytime soon haha I mean the idea of keeping a Copperband (one of my dream fish) is still so intimidating to me. I've watched several videos on how to take care of a CBB (your care guide is what introduced me to your channel!) and I still feel like I can't do it, what chance do I have with the corallivores? Haha

That baronessa looks great! Is it eating yet or just chilling for now? How's the trifasciatus?
 

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Omg Viking Reefing! I feel like I'm talking to a celebrity :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing: Big fan of your channel and I admire how you challenge yourself and how you apply your years of experience with taking care of these fish that are deemed impossible to keep. I got really excited when you uploaded your video on the corallivore butterflies, they're like holy grail fish for me.

Yes, I will definitely NOT be attempting to keep these obligate corallivores anytime soon haha I mean the idea of keeping a Copperband (one of my dream fish) is still so intimidating to me. I've watched several videos on how to take care of a CBB (your care guide is what introduced me to your channel!) and I still feel like I can't do it, what chance do I have with the corallivores? Haha

That baronessa looks great! Is it eating yet or just chilling for now? How's the trifasciatus?
Sorry that I missed your reply. I posted when I was traveling to a meeting and after a long day in a conference room I completely forgot about reef2reef lol.

Glad to hear that you like my stuff! I’m sure that if you just apply yourself (and perhaps use some of the tips in that video hehe) you will do just fine with the cbb.

The melon is doing great. Eating most things now. Even attempting to feed of flakes from the surface.
The baronessa has actually just now started feeding. That fish was a real pain to get going. Probably the worst species that I’ve ever dealt with so far.
It got a case of ich which I normally don’t see as a problem but with a fish that’s not in the best condition in terms of limited nutrition for a while it could be. It’s feeding now so I sure hope that the worst is behind me.
 
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Sorry that I missed your reply. I posted when I was traveling to a meeting and after a long day in a conference room I completely forgot about reef2reef lol.

Glad to hear that you like my stuff! I’m sure that if you just apply yourself (and perhaps use some of the tips in that video hehe) you will do just fine with the cbb.

The melon is doing great. Eating most things now. Even attempting to feed of flakes from the surface.
The baronessa has actually just now started feeding. That fish was a real pain to get going. Probably the worst species that I’ve ever dealt with so far.
It got a case of ich which I normally don’t see as a problem but with a fish that’s not in the best condition in terms of limited nutrition for a while it could be. It’s feeding now so I sure hope that the worst is behind me.
Totally understandable, gotta work hard to keep a reef tank as big as yours ;) nice to hear the 2 corallivores are doing great, I’m not jealous at all… haha

I cannot tell you how many times I’ve watched the cbb vid haha do you think I’d have more luck choosing a good cbb since we get them locally? You mentioned in the corallivore video that you want transit time cut down as much as possible so it’s less stressful on the fish, I think this is as short as it gets haha practically just plucked out of the ocean into the facility.
 

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Totally understandable, gotta work hard to keep a reef tank as big as yours ;) nice to hear the 2 corallivores are doing great, I’m not jealous at all… haha

I cannot tell you how many times I’ve watched the cbb vid haha do you think I’d have more luck choosing a good cbb since we get them locally? You mentioned in the corallivore video that you want transit time cut down as much as possible so it’s less stressful on the fish, I think this is as short as it gets haha practically just plucked out of the ocean into the facility.
Definitely. One of the major issues with these kinds of fish is that they do really poorly in the supply chain. If you can get one that was in the ocean just a couple of days ago your success rate should increase exponentially.
 

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