Why and how aren’t mushrooms considered anemones?
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BristleWormHater
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Nems are coral and mushrooms are coral too. Without going into taxonomy it is important that they are distinct since anemones have tentacles and strong nemacytes(stinging cells). Mushrooms don't have nemacytes or tentacles. Which are large characteristics of anemones.
BristleWormHater
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Sorry not nemacytes, that's a gears of war enemy lol. I meant cnidocytes.
Yeah, basically morphology and DNA is what separates them.
They share a lot of the same morphology (which is why both are considered hexacorals), but they have some important differences as well (same with tube anemones, which actually are not considered regular anemones either). The differences between some kinds of critters can be very small to someone who doesn't study them intensively though.
They share a lot of the same morphology (which is why both are considered hexacorals), but they have some important differences as well (same with tube anemones, which actually are not considered regular anemones either). The differences between some kinds of critters can be very small to someone who doesn't study them intensively though.
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stewy14
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ooooohhh ok, thanks so much for the answers!!!!
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Not me, I can get into a game maybe play for a day or 2 but then I'm on to something else. Then back again. It all depends, it's like everything I say in life. Moderation is always a good thing.
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I'm talking in your dreams VR but for real. Like Sword art online. You lay in a sleep state and dream a virtual world. You would need top of the line equipment in 21 years. I'm just saying that's when they say the "singularity" will happen. At that time we will also have completely autonomous robots that can process information like we do.
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EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal
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Not exactly. Nems are not coral. They belong to the same taxonomic phylum, Cnidaria, but are not classified as coral.
See below for a longer explanation:
Sea Anemone vs Coral: Main Differences - Ocean Info
Sea anemones and corals are marine invertebrates. Sea anemones are soft, tube-like animals, while corals have a hard exoskeleton.
oceaninfo.com
Edit: side note- now I want some beadlet anemones
BristleWormHater
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Yes that is true but it is less complicated to say that nems are coral, because if we went deep into taxonomy mushrooms aren't "coral" either since they also lack an exoskeletonNot exactly. Nems are not coral. They belong to the same taxonomic phylum, Cnidaria, but are not classified as coral.
See below for a longer explanation:
Sea Anemone vs Coral: Main Differences - Ocean Info
Sea anemones and corals are marine invertebrates. Sea anemones are soft, tube-like animals, while corals have a hard exoskeleton.
Edit: side note- now I want some beadlet anemones
EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal
Just another girl who likes fish
Mushrooms are corallimorphs.
Haha, yeah, taxonomically, the waters are a bit muddy here as a number of different things are considered hexacorals, but we kind of informally cluster them as either corals/coral-like or anemones/anemone-like (this is true on both the hobbyist and professional level from what I've seen).
For example, the taxonomic class Hexacorallia is currently considered to include:
-Actinaria (Sea Anemones)
-Antipatharia (Black Corals)
-Ceriantharia (Tube Anemones)
-Corallimorpharia (Corallimorpharians/"False Corals" - Soft Mushroom Corals and Ball Anemones)
-Scleractinia (Stony Corals)
-Zoantharia (Zoanthids - Zoas and Palythoas)
Nems, tube nems, and ball nems are considered anemones/anemone-like by the hobby while everything else considered a coral/coral-like.
Technically, they're all hexacorals, so they might technically be considered corals, but they're not. By the strictest sense, Scleractinians are arguably the only "true corals" around.
It's similar on the octocoral side of things, as octocorals include gorgonians, leathers, and other soft corals (all of which we consider corals) - but it also includes sea pens, most of which aren't considered corals (there are some exceptions here), though they might technically be considered as such.
For example, the taxonomic class Hexacorallia is currently considered to include:
-Actinaria (Sea Anemones)
-Antipatharia (Black Corals)
-Ceriantharia (Tube Anemones)
-Corallimorpharia (Corallimorpharians/"False Corals" - Soft Mushroom Corals and Ball Anemones)
-Scleractinia (Stony Corals)
-Zoantharia (Zoanthids - Zoas and Palythoas)
Nems, tube nems, and ball nems are considered anemones/anemone-like by the hobby while everything else considered a coral/coral-like.
Technically, they're all hexacorals, so they might technically be considered corals, but they're not. By the strictest sense, Scleractinians are arguably the only "true corals" around.
It's similar on the octocoral side of things, as octocorals include gorgonians, leathers, and other soft corals (all of which we consider corals) - but it also includes sea pens, most of which aren't considered corals (there are some exceptions here), though they might technically be considered as such.
BristleWormHater
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Never heard of sea pens before they look really cool, are they ever available for reef tanks?
Most are very notoriously difficult to keep and have very specific, strict requirements to keep. There are some coldwater Sea Pansies (Renilla spp.) which are sea pens considered to be corals, though, which are typically available. Neatly, the Sea Pansies are also bioluminescent.
Edit: To add, until a year or so ago, there were Sea Pansies available which could handle tropical temps, but the seller no longer sells to the public.
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