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Today, I noticed my new angel had a dot or a bump on their eye and it 100% was not there yesterday. Please see the before picture, it was taken one day apart. It looks similar to an eye fluke, but it's strange to me considering it was 24 hours ago that I did not see it. Is it possible maybe it bumped its eye on the rock?
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Appears to just be a scrape. Keep an eye if it gets worse other measures may be necessary
 

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May be a scrape injury but moreso, assure it does not progress which would be retina damage. If it worsens, treat in a separate tank with Maracyn as shown below.


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Looks like a scrape to me, (I think I can see some swelling) but if both eyes become affected, it could still possibly be Neobenedenia flukes.
 
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If this is flukes, should all fish be pulled out and treated? How long should main tank be left without fish, if that's the case? Clown and Goby are in tank with angel.
Looks like a scrape to me, (I think I can see some swelling) but if both eyes become affected, it could still possibly be Neobenedenia flukes.
 

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If this is flukes, should all fish be pulled out and treated? How long should main tank be left without fish, if that's the case? Clown and Goby are in tank with angel.
For eye flukes, there are two species, internal to the eye and one external. Only the external one can be treated with medication in the water. Prazipro can be used, dosed for the net volume of water in the tank, with good aeration, and dose it 2 or better yet, 3 times, 8 days apart with a 25% water change before treatment 2 and 3. Remove carbon filtration and stop collecting skimmate (if you have a skimmer) but keep the skimmer running for aeration .
 
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For eye flukes, there are two species, internal to the eye and one external. Only the external one can be treated with medication in the water. Prazipro can be used, dosed for the net volume of water in the tank, with good aeration, and dose it 2 or better yet, 3 times, 8 days apart with a 25% water change before treatment 2 and 3. Remove carbon filtration and stop collecting skimmate (if you have a skimmer) but keep the skimmer running for aeration .
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Performed a FW dip, and just for confirmation this is a fluke? My concern is this somehow came off of her but her eye may still have internal?
 

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Sorry, I can’t tell you for sure. The microscopic image is Neobenedenia, the eye fluke I was talking about. Trouble is, I can’t confirm that your photo is the same thing.
 
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Sorry, I can’t tell you for sure. The microscopic image is Neobenedenia, the eye fluke I was talking about. Trouble is, I can’t confirm that your photo is the same thing.
The one on the piece of glass was what I took a picture of under the microscope, just to confirm. Is it possible the fish might have several kinds of flukes?
Either way, I think I may treat with Prazipro over the course of 3 weeks like the bottle suggests doing. Most people seem to use this method in display tank rather than the quarantine method. Please let me know if you suggest differently.
 

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The one on the piece of glass was what I took a picture of under the microscope, just to confirm. Is it possible the fish might have several kinds of flukes?
Either way, I think I may treat with Prazipro over the course of 3 weeks like the bottle suggests doing. Most people seem to use this method in display tank rather than the quarantine method. Please let me know if you suggest differently.
Yes - you can dose Prazipro in your display, but you need to change the instructions a bit: dose it with good aeration from an air stone or protein skimmer. If you use a skimmer for aeration, don’t collect the skimmate, just run the bubbles back into the tank. Remove any carbon filtration and turn off the UV. After 8 days, change 25% of the water and redose. Repeat a third dose after another 8 days.
 
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Yes - you can dose Prazipro in your display, but you need to change the instructions a bit: dose it with good aeration from an air stone or protein skimmer. If you use a skimmer for aeration, don’t collect the skimmate, just run the bubbles back into the tank. Remove any carbon filtration and turn off the UV. After 8 days, change 25% of the water and redose. Repeat a third dose after another 8 days.
Thank you very much for your help! I will keep this post updated once the fish are happy, healthy, and fluke-free
 
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**UPDATE**: I moved fish to a 10 gallon QT tank. I dosed with Prazipro every 3-5 days when the water would be changed completely. In the main display tank, I did an 80% water change and filled with a lower salinity and ran the tank for about 3-4 weeks with nothing in it. I did not see anymore flukes at all once I cleaned the main tank completely (95% water change and some regular maintenance) and saw no signs of flukes or abnormal behavior once fish were in QT. Strange but GOOD part was that I only saw one entire fluke and have had no issues since. All fish look healthy and happy. From what I saw, it looks like the lower salinity and big water change might have helped my bristle worm problem (tiny) because I do not want them in my tank. Leaving this message in case someone comes across this forum looking for what to do.
 

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