When, what, and how many eels

[Fishfreak2009]

I can’t find too much information online besides id threads what I have found is that they are a mellow Gymnothorax species.
What concerns me is that it is still a Gymnothorax species which is a fish eater so it may go after fish especially in a 75g
I assume their care is similar to the jewels moray eel (muraena lentiginosa)
I also assume they are a rarer eel since I can’t find too many thread or sites that aren’t selling them that have a lot of information.
What tank size are you keeping yours in, would you think they would stay fish safe in a 75g.

Mine is in an 8' 240 gallon. Honestly, I wouldn't put most adult eels in a 75, including a snowflake. Maybe a white ribbon eel would be better suited? Hardy, not like the blue ribbon, and eat most frozen shrimp/small fish. I wouldn't trust it with firefish or other small guys, but larger clowns, cardinals, etc should do fine.

 

[q8cyu]

I have one as well in my 300 gallon. Mellow eel but needs to be kept well fed!! Loves silversides.

So each will be two feet. Lots of eel and waste. I would say really depends on what you want for other stock?

my stocking list right now is not complete I’m still working on it the only thing I know of is 100% want a eel (or 2 not sure yet).
I’m thinking along the lines of a Foxface, the smaller tang species and some angels, and hawkfish. Still debating on a Toby puffer and a wrasse. Might add a few fish might take away a few fish. The list has changed probably 10 times since I’ve gone fallow.
My biggest concern with 2 eels is them fighting. Water quality I can resolve through more water changes, adding more or upping filtration. Most of it is oversized anyways. Could I keep 2 or better not to?

Mine is in an 8' 240 gallon. Honestly, I wouldn't put most adult eels in a 75, including a snowflake. Maybe a white ribbon eel would be better suited? Hardy, not like the blue ribbon, and eat most frozen shrimp/small fish. I wouldn't trust it with firefish or other small guys, but larger clowns, cardinals, etc should do fine.

Ok then I won’t do a grey face moray.
From my eel that I had in the 75 did look to be comfortable, staying in its burrow during the day and swam a bit changing burrow to poke its head out of at night. This is judging off a smaller eel though I can’t judge from a fully grown eel.

 

[littlefoxx]

okay thats a lot of very big fish for a 75… If you were dead set on an eel in the 75 I would do the eel, clowns, and maybe a dwarf angel and call it good. Foxfaces get huge. Tangs wont do well in that space (especially with other big fish) and more than one dwarf angel would cause issues in a 75. Any of the large angels are completely out. To be honest with the fish you want need at least a 125 gallon to be good together. Toby puffer might be okay but I wouldnt do more than a snowflake (or chaninlink) clowns or the puffer, and a dwarf angel.

 

[q8cyu]

okay thats a lot of very big fish for a 75… If you were dead set on an eel in the 75 I would do the eel, clowns, and maybe a dwarf angel and call it good. Foxfaces get huge. Tangs wont do well in that space (especially with other big fish) and more than one dwarf angel would cause issues in a 75. Any of the large angels are completely out. To be honest with the fish you want need at least a 125 gallon to be good together. Toby puffer might be okay but I wouldnt do more than a snowflake (or chaninlink) clowns or the puffer, and a dwarf angel.

Alright thanks. I’ll lower the fish amount on the list and I’ll probably stick to one eel.
Thanks again

 

[littlefoxx]

Alright thanks. I’ll lower the fish amount on the list and I’ll probably stick to one eel.
Thanks again

Just be careful with that puffer, puffers and triggers can go after eels. Might even skip it to be safe, the only puffer I trust with eels is my porcupine. I had a stars and stripes that tried to tangle with my jeweled eel for some food. Jeweled injured the puffer pretty bad and the puffer got a good bite in. Jeweled was fine but I lost the puffer.

 

[q8cyu]

Just be careful with that puffer, puffers and triggers can go after eels. Might even skip it to be safe, the only puffer I trust with eels is my porcupine. I had a stars and stripes that tried to tangle with my jeweled eel for some food. Jeweled injured the puffer pretty bad and the puffer got a good bite in. Jeweled was fine but I lost the puffer.

Really, wow I had no idea. I’ve never seen that. Don’t know how I missed that while reaching if puffers are fin nippers. All I’ve seen is some may nip fins of Lionfish or other long fin fish but I’ve never heard of them going after an eel. Good to know. I’ll probably skip out on the puffer then I was on the fence with my corals and invertebrates.
Thanks

 

[littlefoxx]

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Really. I had no idea I’ve never seen that. All I’ve seen is some may nip fins of Lionfish or other long fin fish but I’ve never heard of them going after an eel. Good to know. I’ll probably skip out on the puffer then I was on the fence with my corals and invertebrates.
Thanks

Yeah thats why I had them together. Ended bad!! But my eels seem to really like Kirby (my porcupine). And also no shrimps, crabs (emeralds and others) with either the chainlink or snowflake eel. They will be eaten. I keep halloween hermits (since they are large and very mean) and turbo snails with my eels. Some get eaten, some dont. The reef shrimps are just very expensive meals for the eel!!

 

[q8cyu]

Yeah thats why I had them together. Ended bad!! But my eels seem to really like Kirby (my porcupine). And also no shrimps, crabs (emeralds and others) with either the chainlink or snowflake eel. They will be eaten. I keep halloween hermits (since they are large and very mean) and turbo snails with my eels. Some get eaten, some dont. The reef shrimps are just very expensive meals for the eel!!

My last eel actually never went for anything besides a pistol shrimp. Never even went for hermits, cleaner, snails or even feeder ghost shrimp only dead food and that one pistol shrimp.
I’ll try it with clean up crew and see what happens. worst case senecio the eel ends up with lunch or best case senecio I get to still keep crab, shrimp, conchs, and snails. Thanks again for the info with the puffer helped me decide quickly once I saw that on whether or not to get a puffer.

 

[HAAAAAAAA]

Would you think I could keep both together getting them and growing them as juveniles?
I’ve been told no only short term here on this thread. On a different thread I’ve been told yes, and while looking online seen it’s someone’s worked out and it sometimes hasn’t.
It’s a 75 4ft with about 60lbs or rock + a few inches of Sand for burrows and I can also add pvc

Its not a worry to put eels together if they are the right species, if you want you could just go and dump in 8 echidna species and see them thrive, but should you do it? Absolutely not! Comfortability and especially bioload has to be considered, if the tank is too stocked stress levels increase, overstocking a tank is one of the main causes of old tank syndrome, you don't want to be doing water changes 3 to 2 times a week do you?

 

[q8cyu]

Its not a worry to put eels together if they are the right species, if you want you could just go and dump in 8 echidna species and see them thrive, but should you do it? Absolutely not! Comfortability and especially bioload has to be considered, if the tank is too stocked stress levels increase, overstocking a tank is one of the main causes of old tank syndrome, you don't want to be doing water changes 3 to 2 times a week do you?

Yeah definitely don’t want to be doing 30% water changes every week. I’m going to get 1 eel either a chain link or snowflake depending on how the chainlink looks like in person, I’ve only ever seen them through photos on my phone.
Thanks

 

[q8cyu]

Yeah definitely don’t want to be doing 30% water changes every week. I’m going to get 1 eel either a chain link or snowflake depending on how the chainlink looks like in person, I’ve only ever seen them through photos on my phone.
Thanks

It’s probably a bit late but meant to say every day not week

30% every day