What's the difference between a Indophyllia macassarensis or a Cynarina ?Are the scientist Wrong?

[RiptideAquaculture]

Who’s Wrong?
So we spent some time looking this up and apparently Indophyllia macassarensis is a hobby name.
Reef Builders Article- https://reefbuilders.com/2019/05/22/indophyllia-macassarensis-not-really-a-donut/

The true name as the scientific community is considered is a Cynarina

For those who are not familiar with what coral we are talking about we have a photo of both.
Happy to here some discourse on this topic but let’s make sure we keep it civil and scientifically accurate

Let me know what your thoughts are in the comments below
My thoughts
I personally believe that it resembles an acanthophyllia aka meat coral

What are your thought on this ?










Size is around 6-8in in diameter

VS
Cynarina

 

[RiptideAquaculture]

Bump

 

[MaxTremors]

I don’t know, for the second time today I’m saying that I’m not a taxonomist, but in Corals of the World, its called Indophyllia macassarensis, and the species picture they have matches the coral in the photos in the article almost exactly. What source says that it is a Cynarina?

 

[Utubereefer]

I thought it looked like a meat coral had sweet lovin with a cynarina!!

 

[Utubereefer]

@Reef Builders you see this thing!!!!

 

[Utubereefer]

@Reef Builders come on man!!! Check this beauty out! Would love your input!

 

[encrustingacro]

I don’t know, for the second time today I’m saying that I’m not a taxonomist, but in Corals of the World, its called Indophyllia macassarensis, and the species picture they have matches the coral in the photos in the article almost exactly. What source says that it is a Cynarina?

WoRMS - World Register of Marine Species - Cynarina macassarensis (Best & Hoeksema, 1987)

www.marinespecies.org

WoRMS.
COTW is good for referencing what a species looks like, but it is outdated in taxonomic nomenclature. COTW still uses skeletal macromorphology to classify corals, which may not produce entirely accurate results. Most of the scientific community these days use genetic analysis, along with other methods. Also, from what I know, some scientists do not recognize cynarina/indophyllia macassarensis as a valid species, and regard it as a synonym of c. lacrymalis.

 

[jp_75]

can you put indophylia next to cynarina?

 

[encrustingacro]

can you put indophylia next to cynarina?

You should be able to, as Cynarina lacrymalis and C. macassarensis are in the same genus, and might be the same species.

 

[afcorals]

This reminds me of Trachys and Wellsos.....turned out to be the same