What’s your kh consumption

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My reefer 170 is using 2-2.5dkh a day but am running an oversized co2 scrubber & open windows mean pH is always 8.3-8.5 & I have far too much SPS for a tank of this size :face-with-tears-of-joy:
 

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There’s 2 different kind of reefers imo, those who sit back do nothing and suffer the consequences then there’s them that know their own circumstances and experiences and know when to intervene before it’s too late
There's a third kind also, the one who tinkers a good thing to death..
I don’t know why you are getting so angry because I suggested something different from your own perspective.
He did the same thing to me the other day when I suggested he test at the same time everyday rather than testing randomly throughout the day and wondering why the alk is swinging up(after dosing) and down(before "dumping in 1.8dkh").
Said he knew what he's doing, yet here we are.
So either he's just looking for an argument or someone to confirm his beliefs. OR, just maybe he needs to open his mind for possibilities other than what he already "know"s. Heck if I knew all there was to know, I probably wouldn't be asking questions about it :thinking-face:
 
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There's a third kind also, the one who tinkers a good thing to death..

He did the same thing to me the other day when I suggested he test at the same time everyday rather than testing randomly throughout the day and wondering why the alk is swinging up(after dosing) and down(before "dumping in 1.8dkh").
Said he knew what he's doing, yet here we are.
So either he's just looking for an argument or someone to confirm his beliefs. OR, just maybe he needs to open his mind for possibilities other than what he already "know"s. Heck if I knew all there was to know, I probably wouldn't be asking questions about it :thinking-face:
Good point , I don’t claim to know everything even after 25 years because things change , we start a new system a different way which needs close monitoring , you get a doser for the first time and need to check kh every few hours to dial it in
Then you can reduce testing once your blanamce is found and maybe 2 times a week and adjust is ok
I take advice from people that maybe I hadn’t tried , failing that I go with my experience of past events and what I did to improve on that experience

If I say my tank isn’t doing what it should and get no sensible advice I.e check ph or change carbon etc
I don’t want people ideas from reading and repeating what they read because that doesn’t apply 90% of the time
Anyway, rant over
Happy reefing
 

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Good point , I don’t claim to know everything even after 25 years because things change , we start a new system a different way which needs close monitoring , you get a doser for the first time and need to check kh every few hours to dial it in
Then you can reduce testing once your blanamce is found and maybe 2 times a week and adjust is ok
I take advice from people that maybe I hadn’t tried , failing that I go with my experience of past events and what I did to improve on that experience

If I say my tank isn’t doing what it should and get no sensible advice I.e check ph or change carbon etc
I don’t want people ideas from reading and repeating what they read because that doesn’t apply 90% of the time
Anyway, rant over
Happy reefing
I don't disagree with anything said here. The problem with testing like that is that consumption is not the same throughout the day. For a short answer, if you tested every hour- that would be of value(it will show the consumption curve and you can dose more when the tank is using more) flattening the swings. That's what I think you're trying to do. But if testing is sporadic and,more importantly, not at the same time you're kind of left chasing your tail. Especially after peak photosynthesis it would be easy to overshoot if basing the dose on peak consumption.
 
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I don't disagree with anything said here. The problem with testing like that is that consumption is not the same throughout the day. For a short answer, if you tested every hour- that would be of value(it will show the consumption curve and you can dose more when the tank is using more) flattening the swings. That's what I think you're trying to do. But if testing is sporadic and,more importantly, not at the same time you're kind of left chasing your tail. Especially after peak photosynthesis it would be easy to overshoot if basing the dose on peak consumption.
My doser doses slightly higher through photoperiod , kh is the same throughout the day that way
I only had 2 swings due to the dosers otherwise I was steady before these events
I know what will happen but just don’t know when so 2-3 tests a day is needed cos ime you can be level a few days then boom a big drop and I need to maintain that number and not increase until it’s stable I can raise .1 a day over 24 hrs to bring back up without any problems
I made a mistake of adding a bigger dose and raising the kh quicker than uptake
When it starts again I add 2ml .1kh every hour to maintain the consumption
 

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My doser doses slightly higher through photoperiod , kh is the same throughout the day that way
I only had 2 swings due to the dosers otherwise I was steady before these events
I know what will happen but just don’t know when so 2-3 tests a day is needed cos ime you can be level a few days then boom a big drop and I need to maintain that number and not increase until it’s stable I can raise .1 a day over 24 hrs to bring back up without any problems
I made a mistake of adding a bigger dose and raising the kh quicker than uptake
When it starts again I add 2ml .1kh every hour to maintain the consumption
Have you changed your Alkalinity supplier?
 

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No mate still triton core7
Weirdly, my growth, ergo alk consumption, went up hugely when I moved to mixing my own 2 part from Randys recipes using simple pharma grade chems.
I was using an off the shelf "trace element" packed 2 part previously.
I'll put an ICP through in next week but Its got me thinking if excessive trace elements could be detrimental to all consumption
 
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Weirdly, my growth, ergo alk consumption, went up hugely when I moved to mixing my own 2 part from Randys recipes using simple pharma grade chems.
I was using an off the shelf "trace element" packed 2 part previously.
I'll put an ICP through in next week but Its got me thinking if excessive trace elements could be detrimental to all consumption
I raised my mag and later found it contained trace so I’ll see what my icp says also
 
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