Wavemaker or Gyre for best flow in 36”x36” cube?

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What do y’all use to move the water in your cube tank? I’m considering a Jecod CP-40 gyre on my center overflow box for flow. Does anyone have a similar set up with a gyre in the middle? Would individual wavemakers be better?

I will have a return nozzle on the back left and back right of the tank from my return pump for movement as well.
 

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What do y’all use to move the water in your cube tank? I’m considering a Jecod CP-40 gyre on my center overflow box for flow. Does anyone have a similar set up with a gyre in the middle? Would individual wavemakers be better?

I will have a return nozzle on the back left and back right of the tank from my return pump for movement as well.
While I am a big fan of gyres, not sure if I would use one in a cube that size. I would likely go with the individual wavemakers.
 
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While I am a big fan of gyres, not sure if I would use one in a cube that size. I would likely go with the individual wavemakers.

How many would you recommend? Also, are there any major advantages to having a Wavemaker with controllers as opposed to having them on 100% of the time?
 

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How many would you recommend? Also, are there any major advantages to having a Wavemaker with controllers as opposed to having them on 100% of the time?

With a 36"x36" I would want 4 powerheads. I would look for ones with a very wide flow pattern like the Vortech's, as opposed to ones with a lot of reach.

Lots of theories as to if variable speed is better or not. I feel it is to be able to provide variable turbulent flow, but I can't back that up with anything solid.
 

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i have a 60 cube (24x24) and flow is a bit of a challenge. ime/imo individual powerheads -- either staggered on the back wall or at 90 degrees to each other on different faces of the tank -- are the better option.
 

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I'm interested in this post. I seem to be having flow issues in my tank...

Any ideas on what set up I should be doing.
The tank is 400l cube. I have a wave maker and three power heads working on it at the minute plus 2x return pumps with directional nozzles.

Newa power heads x 2
Enhiem return pumps x2
1x other power head

Stats of these items to follow
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I have a friend that just got a Jebao cp25. Loves it. She put hers on the back wall and uses 2 powerheads too. I think you might like a bigger version.
 

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Newa wave 3.9 3900lph each
Sicce xstream 3500lph x1
Ehiem return pumps (off the top of my head are around 3400lph and 2400lph
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Thanks for the idea Katrina. I do like the idea of these. If I had 2x of these vertically mounted both on the back wall left and right.... this could do the trick.... Any thoughts?
 

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For my 93 (30x30x24) I am going to be using two jebao on the back wall near the corners, one high, one low. I will also be putting an icecap gyre under the overflow and running it at a lower speed. Coupled with a 500 gph return I should have really nice flow and fairly random.
 

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I’m actually going to setup my 150 cube; and this has been a concern for me as well. So I am going to try bare bottom so I can increase flow. And I think I am gonna go with 3 vortech MP40s

Would like to see if anyone gets a wave motion in a cube
 

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had my 24"x24"x24"cube 2yrs now. Last year I re-scaped to a central bonsai structure, tried gyre, mp10 and Jaebo (x2) and still have dead spots in the tank.
 

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I’m actually going to setup my 150 cube; and this has been a concern for me as well. So I am going to try bare bottom so I can increase flow. And I think I am gonna go with 3 vortech MP40s

Would like to see if anyone gets a wave motion in a cube

I could get a wave in my 150 DD with MP40's. I ran out of wallet with 4xMP-40's and still had dead spots. Still do :(
Once I get more important things taken care of, I'm going to make some changes, possibly some bigger Tunzes.
 

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im in same boat about to do a 36x36x27 cube. i was going to try 1 gyre, and 2 power heads. would like to see whats working or not working for others since I'm in starting phase of my tank.
 

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I have a 36x36x24 140 gallon cube and I run 2 gyre 280s mounted vertical on the back wall on gyre mode and it does really well. I have a few dead spots but that's only because I run them at 40% so it doesn't blow my sand everywhere.
 

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I have a 36x36x24 140 gallon cube and I run 2 gyre 280s mounted vertical on the back wall on gyre mode and it does really well. I have a few dead spots but that's only because I run them at 40% so it doesn't blow my sand everywhere.

Does it provide a actual wave motion?
 

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Would love to see a video of that
Personally I get confused over the Benefits of waves or a power head that gives random flow. I know the big concern is dead spots but what else?
 

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I have a 93 gallon cube and am running my return pump with a double return back into the tank . I am only running one mp40. I couldn't imagine having more than that. I run my return pump at 75% and the mp40 maybe 20%. I set the mp40 on reef crest mode on the opposite wall of the returns and it makes a wave motion with just that. I dig my cube but I also kind of feel like it makes lighting, wave makers hard to pick and find a way to make them work in a cube. Plus, i can't for the life of me figure out how to get rid of the micro bubbles. Does anyone else with a cube have that problem?
 
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