Video and pictures WHAT is this?

[Salty_Northerner]

So I'm dealing with dinos. What are these and how to I rid them? Also there's got to be a pod of some sort and some thin things. Help to id these please.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

@taricha @vetteguy53081

 

[vetteguy53081]

Can’t open any of these on my phone

 

[vetteguy53081]

Can’t open any of these on my phone - not home

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Can’t open any of these on my phone

That's weird.. here's a few photos then.. I'll add them above.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Can’t open any of these on my phone - not home

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Sorry couldn't add it to the original post.

 

[taricha]

The dinos are amphudinium. The majority of the cells in the videos are harmless diatoms.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

The dinos are amphudinium. The majority of the cells in the videos are harmless diatoms.

Are they the tough ones to deal with, and what knocks them out?

I have bactor7 and bactor7 clean at disposal. I also have Dr Tim's waste away or sludge remover ordered yesterday.

Lighting I can and have knocked back. A black out isn't an option right now. Ideas?

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Yeah

The dinos are amphudinium. The majority of the cells in the videos are harmless diatoms.

I'm pretty sure the diatom isn't the species you said it is.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Still need a bit of guidance on beating this strain before hitting it with dinoX.

 

[taricha]

Yeah

I'm pretty sure the diatom isn't the species you said it is.

If you mean the dinoflagellate in the picture, then it still looks like amphidinium to me. That picture looks specifically like small cell amphidinium.

Still need a bit of guidance on beating this strain before hitting it with dinoX.

Why? Is it killing something? Smothering things? Or does it just look ugly and a bit brown?
I ask because a lot of times people will do drastic cures for something that isn't a huge problem. In your case most of the brown pigment is diatoms which aren't even really a nuisance at all. They are food for many many organisms. Your dinos are a minority portion of the community of brown photosynthetic growth that you pictured.
That's just my perspective on your situation.

 

[kKdTx]

Following, I need to get a microscope.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

If you mean the dinoflagellate in the picture, then it still looks like amphidinium to me. That picture looks specifically like small cell amphidinium.


Why? Is it killing something? Smothering things? Or does it just look ugly and a bit brown?
I ask because a lot of times people will do drastic cures for something that isn't a huge problem. In your case most of the brown pigment is diatoms which aren't even really a nuisance at all. They are food for many many organisms. Your dinos are a minority portion of the community of brown photosynthetic growth that you pictured.
That's just my perspective on your situation.

Thanks you @taricha for getting back to me. Under further searching and really no solid advice I did find out that you are correct. Very little dino and the vast community are diatoms. Your also correct on your perspective, it looks ugly on the sand bed. I'm trying to figure where the silicate is coming from. Also thought since they disperse into the water column as the lights are going down for the day it was Dino's but hear diatoms will do the same thing.

I was told it'll take 2 months to go away but it's been longer. I've shortened the lighting from the peak of 5hrs to 3 hrs and also entire photo period from 10 to 7 hrs. It seems to help and also been dosing bactor7 and bactor clean opposite days apart in hopes it'll do something.

All in all I freaked out and don't want to break the tank down like before. That when I had a massive explosion of dinos that were stressing the entire system out. Just afraid of the same but have come to the realization it's not anything as bad as before. Nutrients were a struggle but now got a grasp on them. N03 10-12 and po4 .05-.15 and do have a few tiny areas of gha growing so I'm happy about that. I think BRS messed up and sent me the wrong rodi filters of 5 micron where I ordered the 1 micron set. I can grab .5 micron locally and thinking that'll grab whatever is getting past the filters?

 

[taricha]

0.5 microns is well smaller than what any of our problem dinos can pass through.

 

[saltyhog]

With a large bloom of diatoms you may have an unexpected silicate source. An ICP (one that includes both RO/DI and tank water) would confirm that and give you the source. Silicon does not show up on a TDS meter so you could have silicates getting through your RO/DI unit even with zero TDS.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Thank you, I think I narro

With a large bloom of diatoms you may have an unexpected silicate source. An ICP (one that includes both RO/DI and tank water) would confirm that and give you the source. Silicon does not show up on a TDS meter so you could have silicates getting through your RO/DI unit even with zero TDS.

Thank you, I believe it was my RODI filters. They're 5 micron where I wanted 1 micron. I ordered a bag of anion beads to place a bed down then the Di beads. Hopefully it'll do the trick. I guess too it be good to just to stop all water changes as it seams to break out worse. Hopefully the filter change I did today helps and with no water changes I really hope it goes away for good.

 

[Salty_Northerner]

Question for silica removal, I bought a mid size innovative marine media reactor. I used to stuff seachem phosguard in the filter sock and Rox carbon in the other sock. Using a media bag for both. Now I installed the media reactor and placed Rox carbon at the bottom, then sponge and phosguard above the carbon within reactor. Is that ok to mix the two Media separate from one another? Both media are sandwiched tight and have decent flow coming through the media and down the tube back into the tanks chamber. First video is flow, it that a good amount? 2nd video is a look through to how the media is. Any thoughts or is that ok?