Trisodium Phosphate measuring grams without a scale?

[Delatedlotus]

Just a couple quick questions.... How do I measure grams of Trisodium Phosphate without a gram scale? It is for Phosphate solution as I have lost all my Phosphates they moved out weeks ago in the middle of the night. And where can I get the best actual easy recipe to mix my own phosphate..? I know there must be a way to measure out grams besides eyeballing it? I am new to this all together, but I am learning from you all on this one for sure.. Thanks really

 

[gbroadbridge]

You don't - You buy a scale for $10 off Amazon.

You'll be using it for years.
You leave nothing to chance in this hobby.

 

[A_Blind_Reefer]

You don't - You buy a scale for $10 off Amazon.

You'll be using it for years.
You leave nothing to chance in this hobby.

I dunno…..I mean I know some old 80s party peeps that could eyeball a gram better than a digital scale!

 

[billyocean]

 

[Delatedlotus]

You don't - You buy a scale for $10 off Amazon.

You'll be using it for years.
You leave nothing to chance in this hobby.

Will it be accurate for $10 bucks...

 

[A_Blind_Reefer]

Just a couple quick questions.... How do I measure grams of Trisodium Phosphate without a gram scale? It is for Phosphate solution as I have lost all my Phosphates they moved out weeks ago in the middle of the night. And where can I get the best actual easy recipe to mix my own phosphate..? I know there must be a way to measure out grams besides eyeballing it? I am new to this all together, but I am learning from you all on this one for sure.. Thanks really

Randy has some great info in the chemistry forum. He’s very detailed. I would search there

 

[Delatedlotus]

I dunno…..I mean I know some old 80s party peeps that could eyeball a gram better than a digital scale!

I do have an old pendulum scale somewhere... lol It's all brass... lol

 

[billyocean]

Will it be accurate for $10 bucks...

Just get a cheap one from Amazon that measures to tenths is fine. That's what I use.

 

[Delatedlotus]

Randy has some great info in the chemistry forum. He’s very detailed. I would search there

How do I do that search..? For Randy Holmes that is..?

 

[billyocean]

This will be fine
Limited-time deal: Digital Pocket Scale Precision 1000g/0.1g, Small Digital Scales Grams Ounces Grains, Herb Scale, Jewelry Scale, Portable Travel Food Scale https://a.co/d/6pCkEMh

 

[A_Blind_Reefer]

How do I do that search..? For Randy Holmes that is..?

DIY Chemistry Archive

I thought it would be useful to have an archive of DIY chemistry methods. I'll add to it as things come up. Calcium and Alkalinity DIY method comparison https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/randy-recommended-diy-two-part-recipes.984604/ Three Part using Sodium Hydroxide (including Balling Part...

www.reef2reef.com

I know he’s equated tea/tablespoons in posts in the past for things like his salinity test standard. Maybe post in there and see if he can help you out.

 

[Delatedlotus]

DIY Chemistry Archive

I thought it would be useful to have an archive of DIY chemistry methods. I'll add to it as things come up. Calcium and Alkalinity DIY method comparison https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/randy-recommended-diy-two-part-recipes.984604/ Three Part using Sodium Hydroxide (including Balling Part...

www.reef2reef.com

I know he’s equated tea/tablespoons in posts in the past for things like his salinity test standard. Maybe post in there and see if he can help you out.

Thank you Blind Man...lol really thanks and I will check it out.. Randy's the man for sure.. Thanks

 

[Delatedlotus]

This will be fine
Limited-time deal: Digital Pocket Scale Precision 1000g/0.1g, Small Digital Scales Grams Ounces Grains, Herb Scale, Jewelry Scale, Portable Travel Food Scale https://a.co/d/6pCkEMh

Ordered... Is this one you use?

 

[billyocean]

Ordered... Is this one you use?

 

[gbroadbridge]

Will it be accurate for $10 bucks...

It'll be more accurate than guessing

Honestly a $10 special will be more accurate than you need

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Just a couple quick questions.... How do I measure grams of Trisodium Phosphate without a gram scale? It is for Phosphate solution as I have lost all my Phosphates they moved out weeks ago in the middle of the night. And where can I get the best actual easy recipe to mix my own phosphate..? I know there must be a way to measure out grams besides eyeballing it? I am new to this all together, but I am learning from you all on this one for sure.. Thanks really

What is the purpose of this solution you need to make?

If it is for phosphate dosing to a reef aquarium, the exact concentration is not important at all, and I recommend using this calculator and the entry for phosphate from potassium phosphate. it is close enough and gives a recipe based on teaspoons.

James' Planted Tank - Dosing Calculator

www.theplantedtank.co.uk

 

[Delatedlotus]

What is the purpose of this solution you need to make?

If it is for phosphate dosing to a reef aquarium, the exact concentration is not important at all, and I recommend using this calculator and the entry for phosphate from potassium phosphate. it is close enough and gives a recipe based on teaspoons.

James' Planted Tank - Dosing Calculator

www.theplantedtank.co.uk

Randy...

You really are the Guru of Seawater I really have noticed that and do respect just that to the max..
You have helped so, so, many individuals in this hobby and most of all you are always there as well..!
You know ALL about the actual heart of this hobby where everything begins and can end as well.
I have to ask only because I don't really know or maybe I have no couth lol. What Is your field and depth of expertise in this hobby is it associated with your employment, line of work? I do apologize this, but I just
don't know so I am just asking....

And thanks again Randy really I am sure from all of us....

Oh yes lol, I just noticed in your post lol. My phosphates bottomed out for some time now (5 weeks), I dropped my NO3 down 20ppm, lost all phosphates. Then I then moved around about 210lbs+ extremely old base live rock out of the sand. Exposing a lot of white non-coraline covered rock ( very deep fine sand bed) And a real lot of it..! I thought maybe some PO would leach out nope it didn't, just a bit lol. maybe its the opposite and the exposed new non covered rock is sucking up phosphates..? I have dosed and dosed Neopos...lol Up and down, then repeat and repeat.. I thought to be huge doses = 20ml twice or three times a day a see-saw affect over and over. Dumped in about a 1/4 a bottle last evening! Test in 24 hours. But now I am in it for the long haul I guess? I want to switch to Trisodium Phosphate I believe it to be a better option. Is that rite..?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Randy...

You really are the Guru of Seawater I really have noticed that and do respect just that to the max..
You have helped so, so, many individuals in this hobby and most of all you are always there as well..!
You know ALL about the actual heart of this hobby where everything begins and can end as well.
I have to ask only because I don't really know or maybe I have no couth lol. What Is your field and depth of expertise in this hobby is it associated with your employment, line of work? I do apologize this, but I just
don't know so I am just asking....


And thanks again Randy really.. Thanks

You're welcome and thanks.

I am a professional chemist, with a BA in Biology and Chemistry from Cornell and a PhD in chemistry from Harvard. I've been the expert moderator of chemistry related reef aquarium issues since the days of Compuserve Fishnet in the early 1990's. I kept my own reef aquarium for 20 years, but it is not currently up.

In the work world, I am currently the VP of Discovery at Entrega. In the past, I have co-invented three FDA approved pharmaceuticals used worldwide (colesevelam (Cholestagel and Welchol), sevelamer hydrochloride (Renagel), sevelamer carbonate (Renvela).

Entrega

puretechhealth.com

 

[Delatedlotus]

Holly... I knew it.. Most people don't have any idea do they? Speaking maybe on behalf of us all, I am sure this whole community to entirely grateful for your dedication to this hobby as well as maybe others? Wow your credentials or just staggering to say the least.. I am floored.. speechless and cause you don't even have a tank of sorts set-up? lol.. sorry that's funny to me.. Rock on brother about what age are you/ I am 66..lol

 

[moretor1]

Use a measuring cup and convert ml to cm³ multiplied by density to find total amount