With my tank cycle started I am thinking of adding some PNS substrate starter bacteria or Aquaforest Life Bio Fil to the system for more bacteria diversity. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this?
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Are you opposed to live rock? That's your best shot at adding diversity but some people are strongly opposed to it due to fear of hitchhikers.With my tank cycle started I am thinking of adding some PNS substrate starter bacteria or Aquaforest Life Bio Fil to the system for more bacteria diversity. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this?
those aren't more diversity they're more of the same strain you already have
dont get tricked by bottle bac salespersons its not diversity, that bac is only for ammonia control and you're fine on that having used a strain already
Get some cultured live rock then, it wont be as bacterially diverse as normal live rock but its 100% hitchhiker free and cheaper. I also wouldn’t do live rock ever again, it was the worst reefing mistake I've ever made. You could also get live rock but just put a little in your sump to seed the tank and block it off from the main tank so no hitchhikers can get through, and any ones that you would like to keep you can put in you DT.I am not doing live rock this time for that reason, but I can get some clean live rock from the local fish store
You don't seem to understand that purple non-sulfur bacteria are not the same as nitrifying bacteria. Therefore, frankly, I don't see how any of this could possibly make sense to you. I applaud your passion and curiosity, but 'thousands of chats and threads,' or even millions, do not supersede the knowledge of an accomplished professional. I suspect from your statements that you have no training in this field. With that, I strongly suggest that you pay closer attention to experts like Dr Meyer. Trust me on this: He and many, many others clearly have a better grasp of this subject than you. Whether or not he makes a living by providing his service (which I seriously doubt he'd ever apologize to you for, nor would I), he's not 'pitching' to you, he's offering to educate you.being prompted to pay for diversity twice over is what doesn’t make much sense.
Please enlighten us as to what this has to do with the original post?Prodibio BioDigest Likely Has No Effect On Ammonia Oxidation and Does Not Help with Waste Reduction
For years, many aquarists and I religiously dose our tanks with Prodibio BioDigest, in reliance of the claims the product, through a "community" of "bacteria in optimal proportion" would help with "a quick set up of the biological filtration" and with the nitrifying and denitrifying process in...www.reef2reef.com
You still didn't answer my question.three threads that have popped up recently in the chem forum are completely skeptical of the value. That’s why I linked one of them
Agreed on all points. I love live rock and miss the old days when good stuff was so widely available. I find it useful in adding diversity generally, and particularly so for adding more or less complete microbial guilds (ecologically functional groups of unrelated species that depend on each other, and plausibly should be added together). That being said, it does appear that many important organisms that appear in abundance on natural reefs get excluded via competitive exclusion in the captive environment (explained in more detail above). It seems that many microbes on the live rock don't persist in aquaria, or don't even make it into the aquarium (i.e., they die during the collection and/or transport).I'd suggest adding some maricutlured live rock. There's beneficial sponges and microbial stuff that can't be cultured and stuck in a bottle. FWIW, the vast majority of pests I've come across have come from other peoples systems, not maricultures live rock. ANd if you quaritine the live rock like you should any other living organism that goes into your system you have time to identify and remove pests.
Still can't answer how that linked post relates to the OP here?my response to the first post was that adding the items in question would be a waste of money with no discernible benefit, unless we pay another company to dna test it and discern a benefit off the digital file of the test. I feel each link, comment and post thereafter from me reinforced my original take.
can I get some before and after pics now
if you asked that of me I'd provide forty recent ones.