The Mediocreef

[Mschmidt]

Could be the start of a fungal infection then. Fungus isn't fatal so I'd just keep an eye on the angel for now to see if it goes away on its own or gets worse.

I'll keep an eye.

Also lympho is a possibility. It is usually on the fins, but have seen it elsewhere on fish. It is not treatable and usually goes away with a good diet and clean water.

They eat well, water could be better. I test that tank about as much as Frank his.

I suspected fungus over lympho because the angel has been in the tank for 3 years, but it's still a possibility.

Newest residents were rescues 8 months ago or so. They were observed for about a month before going in. No issues noticed.

 

[Eagle_Steve]

I suspected fungus over lympho because the angel has been in the tank for 3 years, but it's still a possibility.

Figures. I missed that part lol.

 

[SaltyT]

I test that tank about as much as Frank his.

Other than keeping an eye on PH for certain fish, I don't ever test parameters on my freshwater tanks

 

[Mschmidt]

Other than keeping an eye on PH for certain fish, I don't ever test parameters on my freshwater tanks

last no3 test gave me over 100. that was about November, been changing water every few weeks since then.

 

[tbrown]

Other than keeping an eye on PH for certain fish, I don't ever test parameters on my freshwater tanks

Wait, freshwater tanks have parameters? Pretty sure mine are probably perfect.

 

[tbrown]

last no3 test gave me over 100. that was about November, been changing water every few weeks since then.

What??? Just add more plants.

 

[SaltyT]

last no3 test gave me over 100. that was about November, been changing water every few weeks since then.

As long as you're doing regular water changes you're all good. Your pics show a lot of plant growth, pruning some of those plants back can help remove NO3 the same way we do with chaeto in fuges.

 

[Soren]

I'm glad not everyone gets salty about those of us that get fresh, too! Sorry my experience is too limited to offer advice for the angelfish's eye issue...

 

[Mschmidt]

Wait, freshwater tanks have parameters? Pretty sure mine are probably perfect.

Starting out in planted tank Facebook groups I saw a lot of uppity people talking tds and CO2 levels.

What??? Just add more plants.

More?

Where?

As long as you're doing regular water changes you're all good. Your pics show a lot of plant growth, pruning some of those plants back can help remove NO3 the same way we do with chaeto in fuges.

It's at this point val and dwarf sag. Gotta make an lfs run to get store credit.

I'm glad not everyone gets salty about those of us that get fresh, too! Sorry my experience is too limited to offer advice for the angelfish's eye issue...

All are welcome here. Brackish might get leered at, but not kicked out.

 

[tbrown]

Starting out in planted tank Facebook groups I saw a lot of uppity people talking tds and CO2 levels.

More?

Where?

It's at this point val and dwarf sag. Gotta make an lfs run to get store credit.

Get some water lettuce and some Anubias Nana.

 

[Soren]

Starting out in planted tank Facebook groups I saw a lot of uppity people talking tds and CO2 levels.

More?

Where?

It's at this point val and dwarf sag. Gotta make an lfs run to get store credit.

All are welcome here. Brackish might get leered at, but not kicked out.

From what I've read, high-tech planted tanks where one might care about TDS and CO2 end up being more work than a complete reef tank! In this comparison, I choose the reef.

I have 5 freshwater tanks right now with varying degrees of success over the past year. Four are the top 40B tanks in my basement fish room double stacks and one is a 36g bowfront rescue tank from a house my co-worker bought that contains 6 comet/common goldfish ~3". I'm planning to consolidate some tanks and end up with a recently-acquired 150g tall tank for comet/common goldfish and other cool-water species, such as weather loaches, reticulated hillstream loaches, and white cloud mountain minnows as well as a tank or 2 for tropical species I'd like to keep. The 40B double stacks (4 top, 4 bottom) are planned to be all saltwater QT/hospital tank(s), live rock culture tanks, and some species-specific or special-community-reef tanks at smaller scale.

Current top 40B tanks contain: Community with cherry barbs, zebra danios, harlequin rasboras, otocinclus catfish, and corydoras catfish; black mollies and Siamese algae eaters; few types of rainbowfish and Siamese algae eaters; and 4 weather loaches ~6"+ (too big and dirty for a 40B which caused poor success with my first attempt at white cloud mountain minnows and hillstream loaches, especially since I started too many tanks initially for proper research and this tank became last priority)

Val and dwarf sag. were some of the plants I tried, but I don't think my cheap lights were enough to let them thrive and most died off over time except in one tank.
I wish I could keep a jungle like yours! ...maybe in the tank resets in the future.

No surprise, I still have too many first priorities and too many dreams...

 

[Mschmidt]

Get some water lettuce and some Anubias Nana.

I have duckweed, had the red root floaters too. That was a while ago. The tank took a back seat to the reef over the last year and a half.

 

[Mschmidt]

From what I've read, high-tech planted tanks where one might care about TDS and CO2 end up being more work than a complete reef tank! In this comparison, I choose the reef.

I have 5 freshwater tanks right now with varying degrees of success over the past year. Four are the top 40B tanks in my basement fish room double stacks and one is a 36g bowfront rescue tank from a house my co-worker bought that contains 6 comet/common goldfish ~3". I'm planning to consolidate some tanks and end up with a recently-acquired 150g tall tank for comet/common goldfish and other cool-water species, such as weather loaches, reticulated hillstream loaches, and white cloud mountain minnows as well as a tank or 2 for tropical species I'd like to keep. The 40B double stacks (4 top, 4 bottom) are planned to be all saltwater QT/hospital tank(s), live rock culture tanks, and some species-specific or special-community-reef tanks at smaller scale.

Current top 40B tanks contain: Community with cherry barbs, zebra danios, harlequin rasboras, otocinclus catfish, and corydoras catfish; black mollies and Siamese algae eaters; few types of rainbowfish and Siamese algae eaters; and 4 weather loaches ~6"+ (too big and dirty for a 40B which caused poor success with my first attempt at white cloud mountain minnows and hillstream loaches, especially since I started too many tanks initially for proper research and this tank became last priority)

Val and dwarf sag. were some of the plants I tried, but I don't think my cheap lights were enough to let them thrive and most died off over time except in one tank.
I wish I could keep a jungle like yours! ...maybe in the tank resets in the future.

No surprise, I still have too many first priorities and too many dreams...

I'll read and tackle this when I get some time. Now is too busy for that much text.

 

[Mschmidt]

From what I've read, high-tech planted tanks where one might care about TDS and CO2 end up being more work than a complete reef tank! In this comparison, I choose the reef.

I have 5 freshwater tanks right now with varying degrees of success over the past year. Four are the top 40B tanks in my basement fish room double stacks and one is a 36g bowfront rescue tank from a house my co-worker bought that contains 6 comet/common goldfish ~3". I'm planning to consolidate some tanks and end up with a recently-acquired 150g tall tank for comet/common goldfish and other cool-water species, such as weather loaches, reticulated hillstream loaches, and white cloud mountain minnows as well as a tank or 2 for tropical species I'd like to keep. The 40B double stacks (4 top, 4 bottom) are planned to be all saltwater QT/hospital tank(s), live rock culture tanks, and some species-specific or special-community-reef tanks at smaller scale.

Current top 40B tanks contain: Community with cherry barbs, zebra danios, harlequin rasboras, otocinclus catfish, and corydoras catfish; black mollies and Siamese algae eaters; few types of rainbowfish and Siamese algae eaters; and 4 weather loaches ~6"+ (too big and dirty for a 40B which caused poor success with my first attempt at white cloud mountain minnows and hillstream loaches, especially since I started too many tanks initially for proper research and this tank became last priority)

Val and dwarf sag. were some of the plants I tried, but I don't think my cheap lights were enough to let them thrive and most died off over time except in one tank.
I wish I could keep a jungle like yours! ...maybe in the tank resets in the future.

No surprise, I still have too many first priorities and too many dreams...

I currently have in descending order of size the 75 previously pictured with angels, tetras both black neon (on their third generation I think), and glowlight, there were white clouds in there too. panda cories that have also bred in the tank, a glass catfish that was a rescue along with others I can't name. I had been running co2 till I didn't clean the defuser and it got all clogged. that's when the rotala hra and green started to ebb in growth, along with the cabomba. the val and sag kept on steady as can be. also in the tank, green hair algae, greed dust algae, and some buce that is doing great. My secret is neglect I guess. When I was running co2 it was hard to keep up with trimming, mostly because I am lazy. it looked great though.

A 29 gallon (that's the wife's but I keep it on the list). various easy plants and I need to replant some.

20 gallon plant grow-out with anacaris, rotala, cabomba, rosy red minnows and at least one red NeoCardia.

10-gallon desert scape: java moss and fern, yellow neocaradina and a female betta.

5-gallon guppy hospice: dwarf sag, crypt something or another, maybe anacaris and rotala

my two cents are a reef can be easier than the lfs and forums will tell you. Very little or no dosing, feed, light, test water, top off and water change. And a planted tank can be much harder than it needs to be: monitoring CO2 adn Ph levels, nutrient dosing, regular trimming, cleaning, building water. I'd put the spectrum like this (if it doesn't work typing, I'll have to draw it):

easy hard expert
[--------setting up a low tech planted tank-----]
[---------running a low tech planted tank------------]
[--------------setting up high tech-----------------------------]
[---------------running high tech--------------------------------------------------]
[-------------------- setting up a reef---------------------------------------------------------------]
[---------------------------running a reef------------------------------------------------------------]

Thanks for coming to my TED tank. I don't think they should have let me on stage.

 

[tbrown]

Wow... The guy that moments ago was saying he didn't have time for that much text...

 

[Mschmidt]

Wow... The guy that moments ago was saying he didn't have time for that much text...

That's why I couldn't do it from my phone over my dinner. home now, ignoring my family.

 

[Mschmidt]

It's lessening.

 

[LadyMac]

Other than keeping an eye on PH for certain fish, I don't ever test parameters on my freshwater tanks

I don’t test anything in my fresh tanks lol. Whoops.

 

[tbrown]

I don’t test anything in my fresh tanks lol. Whoops.

I haven't done a water change in my freshwater tank in probably 5 years because my parameters I never test for are perfect.

 

[LadyMac]

I do waterchanges but probably not as often as needed. Atlas is due for one, but to be honest it would just to be a refresh for the plants. Two fish in 35 gallons (b. Macrostoma and b. Pallifina) with a low bioload isn’t much of a concern. Fission gets some algae so he’s the one who gets the most changes. His tank is 3.6 gallons. Him and Toph, who’s in a 3, both get pretty frequent but not weekly. Oops. The albis only to help with growth. I swear, I need something other than bettas. Lol.

The seem to look ok. (Ignore the canvas and bucket lol