Rifken
Community Member
Good Morning,
I am typing with a heavy heart this morning because I have lost 5 fish in the past 5 days. I have relying on my local fish shop owner for advise until now but what he thinks doesn't sound right to me...
About two weeks ago I bought a smallish (3 inch) spiny box puffer from him. It had been in the tank for a few weeks by himself, looked healthy (and reportedly ate well) so I did not quarantine him. I added him to one of my 125 gallon tanks. It that has been a topic in a few other threads.
Anyway, he has not been a good eater. All he wants to eat was the freeze dried krill until last Tuesday when he stopped eating. He did not eat Wednesday either and I noticed his fins looked a little cloudy. The fish guy was coming to clean my tank Thursday so I decided to ask him to take a look. Never got the chance as the puffer was dead in the morning.
The other fish in the tank all looked and acted good.
Fish guy ended up not coming until Friday. I stopped by his shop after work to ask how everything looked and he told me the Clown Trigger (in that tank) was hiding and seemed stressed so he suggested I move him into my more peaceful tank. He also said while you do that you might move the Emperor Angel from that tank into the one the puffer was in.
I did as he suggested later that evening and I noticed the Clown Trigger has white spot and was splotchy looking. I called fish guy and he said that the fish is stressed and he really needs out of that tank so I did the swap. Saturday morning the Clown Trigger was dead.
Later Saturday I noticed the Red Tooth Trigger was hiding and I couldn't get a good look at him but his breathing seemed a bit rapid. Contacted fish guy and he say "he looked great yesterday" and "I wonder if I disturbed to much of the gravel bed when I cleaned yesterday". I said IDK, but I need help. Don't want to lose another fish. He replied "The tank is goo and it would cause more stress to try to move him. Try to take a pic or short video and send it" so I did. After seeing the video he said "looks like dust but he looks good otherwise". He sadi to dose the tank with Stress Coat, turn off the lights and let him relax so I did.
I asked him of this could be because the puffer released toxin in the water and he said no. I also noticed that all the fish were kinda laying low except for the Emperor Angel. I said maybe I should move him and fish guy said no. I tried to feed in the evening but only the lion fish ate. The Red Tooth did not come out of hiding and the other fish just swam around not eating.
Sunday morning the Red Tooth was still hiding and the Nasu Tang was in a corner. I said screw this and moved the Emperor into my 29 gallon QT hoping that after he was out the other fish would start acting right. That was not to be. I called fish guy and after a chat he came over. He looked at the fish, smelled the water, and tested the water. The Nitrate was reading 150 so he deiced that must be it and added some Prime to bring down the Nitrate level. After about 30 minutes the Nitrate had dropped to 100 and he thought the fish seemed better so he gace me instructions to keep checking the Nitrate level and re-dose again in 2 days (from the seachem site) if needed and he left.
This is the Nasu at 7p.m. He was dead at 8p.m. I saw the whole death swim
I said screw this **** and ran out to get more RO water. I already had 25 gallons mixed up and I got another 25 gallons. I let it all stabilize until 10:30 p.m. and changed out 50 gallons of water as a last ditch effort
This morning the Red Tooth was dead and remember the Emporer Angel that was fine in the other tank tank until fish guy said I needed to move him because he was being a bully in the other tank? Then maybe he was a bully in this tank so he got moved to the QT tank? Well he was dead too.
Here is the Red Tooth as I found him this morning. You can't really see it too well in the picture but he had a "film" on his side that had kinda "floaty tendrils" coming off from it
So here's what I have to say about the physical appearance of the fish. It would start looking almost like a dusting with a few white spots. (fish guy actually said he thought the fish had been digging) Just several hours later the fish would be looking cloudy and there was color loss with cloudy eyes. It seemed real fast, like maybe 12 hours from first noticing something wrong to "oh no, it's gonna die"
Fish guy has no idea. I was searching all over R2R and the internet and I am thinking maybe Brooklynella (Clownfish Disease). What are your thoughts?
I also need to figure out treatment for the tank and still living inhabitants. There is still a small (3 inch) Lionfish, a 3" Blue Velvet Damselfish and a 18" Snowflake Moray (that is very important to me)
I should note that I noticed rapid breathing with the Red Tooth Trigger and the Naso Tang. Did not see that with the Spiny Box Fish, Clown Trigger or Emperor Angel
Thank you,
-Bob
I am typing with a heavy heart this morning because I have lost 5 fish in the past 5 days. I have relying on my local fish shop owner for advise until now but what he thinks doesn't sound right to me...
About two weeks ago I bought a smallish (3 inch) spiny box puffer from him. It had been in the tank for a few weeks by himself, looked healthy (and reportedly ate well) so I did not quarantine him. I added him to one of my 125 gallon tanks. It that has been a topic in a few other threads.
Anyway, he has not been a good eater. All he wants to eat was the freeze dried krill until last Tuesday when he stopped eating. He did not eat Wednesday either and I noticed his fins looked a little cloudy. The fish guy was coming to clean my tank Thursday so I decided to ask him to take a look. Never got the chance as the puffer was dead in the morning.
The other fish in the tank all looked and acted good.
Fish guy ended up not coming until Friday. I stopped by his shop after work to ask how everything looked and he told me the Clown Trigger (in that tank) was hiding and seemed stressed so he suggested I move him into my more peaceful tank. He also said while you do that you might move the Emperor Angel from that tank into the one the puffer was in.
I did as he suggested later that evening and I noticed the Clown Trigger has white spot and was splotchy looking. I called fish guy and he said that the fish is stressed and he really needs out of that tank so I did the swap. Saturday morning the Clown Trigger was dead.
Later Saturday I noticed the Red Tooth Trigger was hiding and I couldn't get a good look at him but his breathing seemed a bit rapid. Contacted fish guy and he say "he looked great yesterday" and "I wonder if I disturbed to much of the gravel bed when I cleaned yesterday". I said IDK, but I need help. Don't want to lose another fish. He replied "The tank is goo and it would cause more stress to try to move him. Try to take a pic or short video and send it" so I did. After seeing the video he said "looks like dust but he looks good otherwise". He sadi to dose the tank with Stress Coat, turn off the lights and let him relax so I did.
I asked him of this could be because the puffer released toxin in the water and he said no. I also noticed that all the fish were kinda laying low except for the Emperor Angel. I said maybe I should move him and fish guy said no. I tried to feed in the evening but only the lion fish ate. The Red Tooth did not come out of hiding and the other fish just swam around not eating.
Sunday morning the Red Tooth was still hiding and the Nasu Tang was in a corner. I said screw this and moved the Emperor into my 29 gallon QT hoping that after he was out the other fish would start acting right. That was not to be. I called fish guy and after a chat he came over. He looked at the fish, smelled the water, and tested the water. The Nitrate was reading 150 so he deiced that must be it and added some Prime to bring down the Nitrate level. After about 30 minutes the Nitrate had dropped to 100 and he thought the fish seemed better so he gace me instructions to keep checking the Nitrate level and re-dose again in 2 days (from the seachem site) if needed and he left.
This is the Nasu at 7p.m. He was dead at 8p.m. I saw the whole death swim
I said screw this **** and ran out to get more RO water. I already had 25 gallons mixed up and I got another 25 gallons. I let it all stabilize until 10:30 p.m. and changed out 50 gallons of water as a last ditch effort
This morning the Red Tooth was dead and remember the Emporer Angel that was fine in the other tank tank until fish guy said I needed to move him because he was being a bully in the other tank? Then maybe he was a bully in this tank so he got moved to the QT tank? Well he was dead too.
Here is the Red Tooth as I found him this morning. You can't really see it too well in the picture but he had a "film" on his side that had kinda "floaty tendrils" coming off from it
So here's what I have to say about the physical appearance of the fish. It would start looking almost like a dusting with a few white spots. (fish guy actually said he thought the fish had been digging) Just several hours later the fish would be looking cloudy and there was color loss with cloudy eyes. It seemed real fast, like maybe 12 hours from first noticing something wrong to "oh no, it's gonna die"
Fish guy has no idea. I was searching all over R2R and the internet and I am thinking maybe Brooklynella (Clownfish Disease). What are your thoughts?
I also need to figure out treatment for the tank and still living inhabitants. There is still a small (3 inch) Lionfish, a 3" Blue Velvet Damselfish and a 18" Snowflake Moray (that is very important to me)
I should note that I noticed rapid breathing with the Red Tooth Trigger and the Naso Tang. Did not see that with the Spiny Box Fish, Clown Trigger or Emperor Angel
Thank you,
-Bob
