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Oh I had my whole house cleansed once, I thought if my wife believed so much and I supported her it would help with her well being. And her demons? It didn't... But

I have had many experiences since I was very little, I always find a rational explanation, kid fears, life experiences, mind and eye tricks, the brain, is not a flawless machine. But that's just me.

When I was telling the psychic about some of my experiences they told me they knew when they first met me I was in tune with the paranormal and everything. I think my wife was jealous actually, she seemed soured afterwards.

But yes the caveman ghosts, hehe...

I've actually been on ghost hunts and stuff, I'm still waiting for the definitive proof.

Or could it be 4th dimensional beings? Aliens? Who knows...
Again, not knocking it. But I'm sure in the future ghost hunts could be a completely different thing, like let's look for 'x' celebrity's ghost because they died of a fentanyl overdose.
 

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Again, not knocking it. But I'm sure in the future ghost hunts could be a completely different thing, like let's look for 'x' celebrity's ghost because they died of a fentanyl overdose.
I'm close to Waverly Hills (maybe you heard of it), I have always wanted to go for the entertainment of it.

Until I am proven wrong, I'll say it's just entertaining.
 

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ah, but see i want that additional contact time since I use outside air to raise my pH. also, the bubble plates have progressively larger holes to account for organics attached to the bubbles. I.E. two bubbles fit through the next progressive plate so that they arent broken up. thoughts?
This is getting into theoretical territory, mind you. I asked a couple chemists/physicists about how much force would be needed to break an organic compound away from the bubbles, and their answer was to get a super computer because there are a billion variables to account and calculate for. Having said that, additional bubble plates is not going to reduce the flow in any significant way. It will create an insignificant amount of back pressure on the pump that's forcing the water through, as opposed to having just one plate, which I don't necessarily recommend for all applications either. For that matter, if the plates were every 3", then you've effectively reduced your skimmer chamber size to a total of roughly 3-4". Like I said, all you're doing is adding turbulence by creating another barrier for the bubbles to hit and shake loose organic compounds. Yes, the flow rate through the holes in each sequential series of plates is lower, but each one still has choke points and surfaces for the bubbles to bounce up against.

If you wanted to increase the contact time then you're up against two things: space and method of air injection. What you're designing is a hang-on-back skimmer. It simply can't be big per its nature, and that limits what you can do. Also, you're more than likely using a needle-wheel type of air injection, which runs into a similar problem that most skimmers suffer from: the amount of air injected is linked to the flow rate. It especially shows up in that style of air-injection more so than the others because there's no flow regulation on the needle-wheel pump. Quite literally, the more water the pump moves, the more air it sucks in, whereas venturi or beckett styles have certain flow restrictors in place, due to the nature of their designs. An old school counter-current air stone skimmer would be ideal for results in your situation, but they require a lot of maintenance, and I wouldn't recommend one of those either. Been there, done that about 13 years ago, and they're a pain in their own right.

The best advice I could give is to make sure the chamber is square as opposed to cylindrical, and to focus in on one point of turbulence if possible, specifically at the bottom of the chamber. A square chamber allows for roughly 33% more water volume for the same real estate compared to a cylindrical one, which adds water volume to your tank and allows the skimmer to process more water at once. Inject the water/air at the bottom and have it hit a chamber that directs both up in unison. The turbulence right outside the outlet of the needle-wheel is insignificant considering the water had .5 seconds of contact time with the bubbles before they hit the turbulent spot, so no organic compounds were bound to the bubbles anyway, then allow them to flow up together as smoothly as possible. After that, try to prevent as many microbubbles from returning to your tank as possible. Yes, you can pump microbubbles into your whole tank to effectively turn it into a skimmer itself (which was a trend a good 6-7ish years back, and it will increase the filter capacity of your system, but it will also irritate corals. You're kind of limited in your design due to the parameters you're up against, but feel free to ask for more feedback on your future designs. I have spent a good ten years researching skimmers and can be a valuable source of information for you.
 

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Lol, can you imagine ghosts in the future. Some random skinny kid that died by getting smacked with a shoe from his mom from playing video games is now going to haunt you.
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The day a ghost starts a haunt by saying "actually..." is the day I will off myself just to have some good ole fashioned ghost on ghost fighting
 

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This is getting into theoretical territory, mind you. I asked a couple chemists/physicists about how much force would be needed to break an organic compound away from the bubbles, and their answer was to get a super computer because there are a billion variables to account and calculate for. Having said that, additional bubble plates is not going to reduce the flow in any significant way. It will create an insignificant amount of back pressure on the pump that's forcing the water through, as opposed to having just one plate, which I don't necessarily recommend for all applications either. For that matter, if the plates were every 3", then you've effectively reduced your skimmer chamber size to a total of roughly 3-4". Like I said, all you're doing is adding turbulence by creating another barrier for the bubbles to hit and shake loose organic compounds. Yes, the flow rate through the holes in each sequential series of plates is lower, but each one still has choke points and surfaces for the bubbles to bounce up against.

If you wanted to increase the contact time then you're up against two things: space and method of air injection. What you're designing is a hang-on-back skimmer. It simply can't be big per its nature, and that limits what you can do. Also, you're more than likely using a needle-wheel type of air injection, which runs into a similar problem that most skimmers suffer from: the amount of air injected is linked to the flow rate. It especially shows up in that style of air-injection more so than the others because there's no flow regulation on the needle-wheel pump. Quite literally, the more water the pump moves, the more air it sucks in, whereas venturi or beckett styles have certain flow restrictors in place, due to the nature of their designs. An old school counter-current air stone skimmer would be ideal for results in your situation, but they require a lot of maintenance, and I wouldn't recommend one of those either. Been there, done that about 13 years ago, and they're a pain in their own right.

The best advice I could give is to make sure the chamber is square as opposed to cylindrical, and to focus in on one point of turbulence if possible, specifically at the bottom of the chamber. A square chamber allows for roughly 33% more water volume for the same real estate compared to a cylindrical one, which adds water volume to your tank and allows the skimmer to process more water at once. Inject the water/air at the bottom and have it hit a chamber that directs both up in unison. The turbulence right outside the outlet of the needle-wheel is insignificant considering the water had .5 seconds of contact time with the bubbles before they hit the turbulent spot, so no organic compounds were bound to the bubbles anyway, then allow them to flow up together as smoothly as possible. After that, try to prevent as many microbubbles from returning to your tank as possible. Yes, you can pump microbubbles into your whole tank to effectively turn it into a skimmer itself (which was a trend a good 6-7ish years back, and it will increase the filter capacity of your system, but it will also irritate corals. You're kind of limited in your design due to the parameters you're up against, but feel free to ask for more feedback on your future designs. I have spent a good ten years researching skimmers and can be a valuable source of information for you.
Thanks for the reply, i wasnt sure if you remembered. I'll digest overnight and get back to you tomorrow.
 

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Again, not knocking it. But I'm sure in the future ghost hunts could be a completely different thing, like let's look for 'x' celebrity's ghost because they died of a fentanyl overdose.
Zak Bagans is legit my Eskimo brother. AMA.
 

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Thanks for the reply, i wasnt sure if you remembered. I'll digest overnight and get back to you tomorrow.
Yeah I remembered and enjoy talking about this subject so I definitely wanted to circle back to it once I got some other things done. First and foremost, making things is what I like, and reefing is a great outlet for that.
 

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Hollagram check for the day:
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And my Angry Unicorn:
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Very nice pics! What's you method for taking pics these days?

On my computer, they look like they could have a little exposure and white taken out, but my computer always makes things look whiter/lighter.
 

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Very nice pics! What's you method for taking pics these days?

On my computer, they look like they could have a little exposure and white taken out, but my computer always makes things look whiter/lighter.
Those were lazy through the reefing glasses pics. Just done quick.
 

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Very cool! That was a very nice light/filter setting you used!
To be fair though, these are a different set of reefing glasses. I had a free pair, these are the Fritz ones. They look nicer than the ones I had for some reason. My daughter always steals them for super hero glasses and I thought I lost my free pair I received with a frag order.
 

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To be fair though, these are a different set of reefing glasses. I had a free pair, these are the Fritz ones. They look nicer than the ones I had for some reason. My daughter always steals them for super hero glasses and I thought I lost my free pair I received with a frag order.
Was that your daughter in the Tae Kwon Do video earlier?
 

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