Red Sea xl300 silicone bubbles

[fuxs]

Hello all, need some advice for my Red Sea 300XL aquarium Looks like I have air in my silicone or bubbles. Should I reseal it or is it okey? I did a 100% water leakage test for 4 days with no problem. I e-mailed Red Sea and waiting for an answer.

 

[littlefoxx]

If there were bubbles no way I would fill it with all the seam bursts red sea has. I would get a different tank if it were me

 

[slingfox]

Given the history of RedSea seem breaks, those pictures look like very bad news!

I started in the hobby a year ago and got a RedSea G2 tank. I sort of wish I went with a Waterbox to Cade instead!

 

[BubblesandSqueak]

Is it new or used? Like little fox said, Red Sea and bubbles don’t mix.

 

[fuxs]

Is it new or used? Like little fox said, Red Sea and bubbles don’t mix.

Used, gift from my parents. I think it's 4 years old.

 

[WalkerLovesTheOcean]

Definitely don't use it as is. The problem with Red Sea tanks is that they are very poorly designed. You can see it in your tank. Look at the the bottom of the glass panels, specifically the front panel. They have no support because of Red Sea's sleek design. The design looks good but it is not at all structurally safe. So eventually the glass starts to pull away from the seams, causing the tank to bust.

 

[Tamberav]

Used, gift from my parents. I think it's 4 years old.

So sorry but it should not be used. I am sure your parents would not want all that saltwater all over the floor, it is extremely damaging. Red sea tanks have a history of leaking/splitting. Unfortunately some people are dishonest and sell their used tanks when they see issues.

 

[BubblesandSqueak]

Used, gift from my parents. I think it's 4 years old.

So probably the G1

 

[Lavey29]

That not seam bubbles. My XL300 has had that haze there since I first filled it 3.5 years ago.

 

[Lavey29]

Definitely don't use it as is. The problem with Red Sea tanks is that they are very poorly designed. You can see it in your tank. Look at the the bottom of the glass panels, specifically the front panel. They have no support because of Red Sea's sleek design. The design looks good but it is not at all structurally safe. So eventually the glass starts to pull away from the seams, causing the tank to bust.

Gee wonder why they are the world leader selling reef tanks with 10s of thousands of tanks in service world wide. You are clueless to their design and have no expert basis to offer an opinion on their build quality.

 

[piranhaman00]

Definetly do not use

 

[IceNein]

Gee wonder why they are the world leader selling reef tanks with 10s of thousands of tanks in service world wide. You are clueless to their design and have no expert basis to offer an opinion on their build quality.

The hanging edge does make me and a lot of people uncomfortable, but if you think about it from a physics perspective, there are two main forces acting on that silicone. The shear force downward of the mass of the pane of glass, and the outward force of the water in the tank.

Given roughly 0.43 psi as an average for a two foot deep tank, if the pane is four feet long, that is 24x48 or 1,152 square inches x 0.43 psi = 495 pounds force outward. this is an order of magnitude greater than the shear force downward.

I'm not here to tell you that the floating pane is a good design, I just think we need to re-calibrate our "common" sense given the forces that are at play on the seams of our tanks.

 

[Lavey29]

The hanging edge does make me and a lot of people uncomfortable, but if you think about it from a physics perspective, there are two main forces acting on that silicone. The shear force downward of the mass of the pane of glass, and the outward force of the water in the tank.

Given roughly 0.43 psi as an average for a two foot deep tank, if the pane is four feet long, that is 24x48 or 1,152 square inches x 0.43 psi = 495 pounds force outward. this is an order of magnitude greater than the shear force downward.

I'm not here to tell you that the floating pane is a good design, I just think we need to re-calibrate our "common" sense given the forces that are at play on the seams of our tanks.

10s of thousands of hanging edges currently in service world wide. The forces you mention are people blasting their wave maker powerheads against their side walls 24/7. Over time that causes fatigue and may lead to seam failures.

 

[WalkerLovesTheOcean]

Gee wonder why they are the world leader selling reef tanks with 10s of thousands of tanks in service world wide. You are clueless to their design and have no expert basis to offer an opinion on their build quality.

Another issue is that most of the weight is on the 2 upright side panels as the bottom glass eventually starts to sag because the stand wasn't designed properly OR wasn't made with the appropriate materials. I get that Red Sea is the the biggest tank manufacturer, but tons and tons have failed, just on R2R. Imagine all that have failed around the world. No need to argue.

 

[piranhaman00]

I love the people who have Red Sea tanks running that adamantly defend theM.

 

[LARedstickreefer]

10s of thousands of hanging edges currently in service world wide. The forces you mention are people blasting their wave maker powerheads against their side walls 24/7. Over time that causes fatigue and may lead to seam failures.

That’s ridiculous. If this is the case, then why aren’t we seeing this happening with each and every other brand?

Common sense is key here.

Red Sea has a problem.

 

[Lavey29]

That’s ridiculous. If this is the case, then why aren’t we seeing this happening with each and every other brand?

Common sense is key here.

Red Sea has a problem.

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Could go on and on and on but perhaps the light has turned on for you now.

 

[LARedstickreefer]

Ignore the dude that’s constantly in here running cover for Red Sea. You need to be very careful with a tank that size with any strange looking abnormalities in the seams. There are many many others with really awful stories. Even my little Red Sea reefer 170 has seam failure.

-Matt

 

[bossman818]

I have the same tank bought second hand. Same bubbles you have. I added this piece of 1 inch plywood as support. A week in with tank full so far. I believe the stand is what causes Seams to fail.

 

[exnisstech]

My 300 has been running for 18 months. I do not see anything like that on my seams.