Questions about velvet and treatment..

[Reefin' Alaska]

Against my better judgement, I took in 2 fish, a blenny and Kole tang that were in a tank that had a leak. Both didn't look great but here we are..

Fairly certain it's velvet. Blenny died, lost my canary wrasse. Kole, Lt. Tang, Purple and, Black and Tomini all have like crazy amounts of spots and loss of color/appetite. Purple is swimming into power heads. Clowns look fine, acting normal. Dwarf angels the same.

Problem is, I don't have much disease stuff here, I live in the middle of nowhere Alaska, haven't added a fish in this tank in years, had to order a copper test and Humble Fish recommends the Ruby Reef stuff as a form of treatment as well.

I do have copper and everything I read said I really dont have time to step the dosage amount up. I used the recommended dosage I read a few times here about Coppersafe of 1.6ml per gallon. I didn't want to wait for the test to get here, didn't think I had time to wait, so I took a chance. Don't think I really had a choice here. They are all in 2 29g tanks, it's all I have here.

What else can I do? This is all the steps I knew to take. Not sure what else I should do.

Also, when my display is fallow, what do I do to keep nutrients up? Just feed normally with no fish? or?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Against my better judgement, I took in 2 fish, a blenny and Kole tang that were in a tank that had a leak. Both didn't look great but here we are..

Fairly certain it's velvet. Blenny died, lost my canary wrasse. Kole, Lt. Tang, Purple and, Black and Tomini all have like crazy amounts of spots and loss of color/appetite. Purple is swimming into power heads. Clowns look fine, acting normal. Dwarf angels the same.

Problem is, I don't have much disease stuff here, I live in the middle of nowhere Alaska, haven't added a fish in this tank in years, had to order a copper test and Humble Fish recommends the Ruby Reef stuff as a form of treatment as well.

I do have copper and everything I read said I really dont have time to step the dosage amount up. I used the recommended dosage I read a few times here about Coppersafe of 1.6ml per gallon. I didn't want to wait for the test to get here, didn't think I had time to wait, so I took a chance. Don't think I really had a choice here. They are all in 2 29g tanks, it's all I have here.

What else can I do? This is all the steps I knew to take. Not sure what else I should do.

Also, when my display is fallow, what do I do to keep nutrients up? Just feed normally with no fish? or?

Unfortunately FW dip wont help as well as TTM. Ruby is ok, copper is best at 2.25 treatment level. Not having meds is indeed an issue and velvet being a flagelllate is progressive and time is therefore of essence for treatment. As for fallow, additions of bacteria is sufficient and if inverts, supplement with small amount of food or tabs.

 

[Reefin' Alaska]

Unfortunately FW dip wont help as well as TTM. Ruby is ok, copper is best at 2.25 treatment level. Not having meds is indeed an issue and velvet being a flagelllate is progressive and time is therefore of essence for treatment. As for fallow, additions of bacteria is sufficient and if inverts, supplement with small amount of food or tabs.

I have CopperSafe. Problem is I don't have a way to know what level of copper I have in the tank currently without a test. I just went with the 1.6ml per gallon. Hell, I hope that copper doesn't have a shelf life cause that bottle is like 4 years old, was never opened.

I ordered a test kit and more copper already. Ruby stuff should be here on Thursday. Was just curious what else I can maybe do without more options for meds short term.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have CopperSafe. Problem is I don't have a way to know what level of copper I have in the tank currently without a test. I just went with the 1.6ml per gallon. Hell, I hope that copper doesn't have a shelf life cause that bottle is like 4 years old, was never opened.

I ordered a test kit and more copper already. Ruby stuff should be here on Thursday. Was just curious what else I can maybe do without more options for meds short term.

Im not concerned about shelf life as I an overdosing. Reading instruction, dose at 85% of recommended.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Against my better judgement, I took in 2 fish, a blenny and Kole tang that were in a tank that had a leak. Both didn't look great but here we are..

Fairly certain it's velvet. Blenny died, lost my canary wrasse. Kole, Lt. Tang, Purple and, Black and Tomini all have like crazy amounts of spots and loss of color/appetite. Purple is swimming into power heads. Clowns look fine, acting normal. Dwarf angels the same.

Problem is, I don't have much disease stuff here, I live in the middle of nowhere Alaska, haven't added a fish in this tank in years, had to order a copper test and Humble Fish recommends the Ruby Reef stuff as a form of treatment as well.

I do have copper and everything I read said I really dont have time to step the dosage amount up. I used the recommended dosage I read a few times here about Coppersafe of 1.6ml per gallon. I didn't want to wait for the test to get here, didn't think I had time to wait, so I took a chance. Don't think I really had a choice here. They are all in 2 29g tanks, it's all I have here.

What else can I do? This is all the steps I knew to take. Not sure what else I should do.

Also, when my display is fallow, what do I do to keep nutrients up? Just feed normally with no fish? or?

An accurate diagnosis is important, but coppersafe treats both ich and velvet. Given that you can see spots on some fish and other fish aren't affected (yet), I'd hazard to guess this is ich.

You don't need to step up the dose for coppersafe, that is something that needs to be done with ionic copper, but not this product. However, an accurate dose is important. I'm not sure where you read that coppersafe is dosed at 1.6 ml per gallon. The proper dose is 5 ml per 4 gallons, so 1.25 ml per gallon.

You can try a base dose of coppersafe at 1.25 ml per gallon, and then when you get a copper test, you can adjust that amount. If the tanks have a lot of calcium substrate in them though, the copper level will drop pretty quickly, and without a test kit (Hanna meter is best) you won't be able to adjust the dose.

Jay

 

[Saltwater Depot]

best test kit is the hanna checker for copper safe/copper power. Start with the baseline dosage and test once you are able. Most important thing is there is a presence of copper so the parasite can detach from the fish.

 

[Reefin' Alaska]

An accurate diagnosis is important, but coppersafe treats both ich and velvet. Given that you can see spots on some fish and other fish aren't affected (yet), I'd hazard to guess this is ich.

You don't need to step up the dose for coppersafe, that is something that needs to be done with ionic copper, but not this product. However, an accurate dose is important. I'm not sure where you read that coppersafe is dosed at 1.6 ml per gallon. The proper dose is 5 ml per 4 gallons, so 1.25 ml per gallon.

You can try a base dose of coppersafe at 1.25 ml per gallon, and then when you get a copper test, you can adjust that amount. If the tanks have a lot of calcium substrate in them though, the copper level will drop pretty quickly, and without a test kit (Hanna meter is best) you won't be able to adjust the dose.

Jay

I did about 20ml in a 20g tank that probably has 18g of actual volume in it. It's not full.

I did lose the Kole and my Lt. tang overnight. Lt tang looked like scales/skin had peeled off.

Everything else seems to be okay this morning. Clowns ate. Black tang ate.

I ordered a hanna checker last night. Guessing around Friday it may get here.