problems with AFR, switching question

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In MY opinion afr is the closest product available in a bottle or package that to a point mimics a calcium reactor. I used afr supplemented with kalk on a fully stocked 95%sps reef without issue. ( almost no water changes either.)

Really? lol. Oh boy. I need to exit this thread. It’s almost a cult-like following at this point. There’s no hope!


Try to listen closely….

 

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Oh bless us Reefaholic with all your reef knowledge!! We are not worthy!!!!!

Yeah, it’s really unfortunate that somebody like “Lou himself” can spell it out for you in a Vlog, but you still can’t get it. My feelings would be hurt too paying for that expensive product, and being suckered the whole time.
 

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What is it you want someone to know?

That you got…GOT. lol

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Just go to the sink and dump that magic unicorn urine.
 

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Really? lol. Oh boy. I need to exit this thread. It’s almost a cult-like following at this point. There’s no hope!


Try to listen closely….

Do you have a point you feel you need to make, does it make you crazy people are ignoring your rant? You do you boo boo.
 

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That you got…GOT. lol

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Just go to the sink and dump that magic unicorn urine.
Your irrational hatred and need to insult people who use this product have been noted. Thanks for your deep contribution to this thread. Enjoy your time here shouting into the void because I won’t be listening anymore.
 

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Do you have a point you feel you need to make, does it make you crazy people are ignoring your rant? You do you boo boo.

I’ve made my point. Anybody can ignore it, but they’ve heard the truth. It strikes nerves every time I mention it or if I play Lou’s video. I mean, I don’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to be tricked either.
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Yeah, it’s really unfortunate that somebody like “Lou himself” can spell it out for you in a Vlog, but you still can’t get it. My feelings would be hurt too paying for that expensive product, and being suckered the whole time.
How about you give people your choice of dosing, the one that doesn't require tweaking, multiple products to maintain all parameters, cannot swing or drop or all the other negatives you listed for afr.
 

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Your irrational hatred and need to insult people who use this product have been noted. Thanks for your deep contribution to this thread. Enjoy your time here shouting into the void because I won’t be listening anymore.

Yes, have a good night. I won’t waste anymore time here. Point came across in Lou’s own words.
 

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I’ve made my point. Anybody can ignore it, but they’ve heard the truth. It strikes nerves every time I mention it or if I play Lou’s video. I mean, I don’t blame them. I wouldn’t want to be tricked either.
lol

What point are you trying to make without linking a video.
How about you give people your choice of dosing, the one that doesn't require tweaking, multiple products to maintain all parameters, cannot swing or drop or all the other negatives you listed for afr.

You forgot to mention monthly ICP tests.
 

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How about you give people your choice of dosing, the one that doesn't require tweaking, multiple products to maintain all parameters, cannot swing or drop or all the other negatives you listed for afr.

I gotta pick up the wifey, but I’d say pick any product that can handle the entire chemistry (or the majority of the chemistry) w/o needing multiple other products to help it out. Something that will not cause trace elements to run wild in a younger system.
 

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Yes, have a good night. I won’t waste anymore time here. Point came across in Lou’s own words.

You are being intentionally obtuse.

You keep linking a video with Lou saying, "Yes, there is one think you give up, and that is dosing individual elements". The video I linked with Lou discussing their product line he says the same thing. That is true so what is the big deal?
 

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I gotta pick up the wifey, but I’d say pick any product that can handle the entire chemistry (or the majority of the chemistry) w/o needing multiple other products to help it out. Something that will not cause trace elements to run wild in a younger system.

You are confusing Moonshiners or additive based solutions or hobbyist who use ICP to act on or correct. Which is why I have mentioned you using it. You want to dose, adjust, and use multiple products to do so. It works for you. Great.

Not everyone runs the same methods.
 

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You are being intentionally obtuse.

You keep linking a video with Lou saying, "Yes, there is one think you give up, and that is dosing individual elements". The video I linked with Lou discussing their product line he says the same thing. That is true so what is the big deal?

My apologies, gotta go scoop the wife. Have a good night.
 

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What do mean by the “ alk doesn’t show up right away”?
All for reef uses calcium formate which releases alkalinity slowly as bacteria process it allowing for steady alkalinity to be released. It can take 24-48 hrs for the alk to be fully released which reduces spikes, but it also means that it won’t show up immediately in a test.

If you dose then after 48 hours you will see the full effect of the dose, but, over the course of 48 hours, you will also have consumption, and then when you dose more, it takes another 24-48 hours to release

This is why AFR should be dosed daily, based on your daily alk consumption, so this 24-48 hour process is always running, instead of a dosing every few days which has the process start…run…stop…stop…start…run…stop…etc

You want to keep adding whatever is needed daily so it’s constantly releasing what is needed, and the process is replacing the correct amount of alk daily to counteract consumption

I hope this makes sense but if not let us know and maybe someone can explain it better or I can reword it
 

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