New clownfish problems?

[abrichy]

Hi, I am in the process of building a 60g cube, and figured I’d take advantage of Petco sales and get a 20g for an observation tank, and to get my first fish.
I was lucky enough to find 2 black storms at Petco for less than $40/fish (bad to buy from Petco, I know, but couldn’t pass up on $200 savings!!)
These fish have been with me for 3 weeks, and the smaller one has been flashing, gasping, and doing weird behaviors. After some research I’ve found it could be from submitting to the dominant, larger fish.
However, the “gasping” and mouth breathing seem very fast, and the fish is laying down frequently too.
I have purchased a chunk of recommended medications by humblefish.
I’ve done a preventative fw dip, and this fish is eating super well.
0 Ammonia
0 Nitrite
15 Nitrate
1 Phosphate
Before I pre-maturely diagnose and medicate with cupramine or prazipro, could anyone offer a second opinion?
Thanks!

 

[Jay Hemdal]

abrichy Welcome to the Fish Disease Treatment and Diagnosis Forum!

The #fishmedic team and other knowledgeable members of our community will do our best to help you resolve your questions. Please provide as much of the following as you are able:

• Brief description of the issue you are observing and answers to the following questions:
  • How long have you had the fish with the condition?
  • Did you quarantine with medication when you first acquired the fish? (If Yes, which medication?)
• Current water quality measurements
• Clear photos of the issue taken using WHITE light and/or a short video of any behaviors (post in your response or on YouTube).

If you can help us by providing as much of the above info as possible, it will make diagnosing and providing recommendations for treatment MUCH easier! The Fish Medic team will get back to you as quickly as possible. In the meantime, other members of our community may also share their experience with similar situations and advice that they may have regarding your situation.

You may also feel free to provide a more detailed description of the condition if you wish to share more info than the above list.

Additionally, these links may be useful while you await a response:

• CURRENT QT PROTOCOL LINK
• HOW TO ASK FOR DISEASE DIAGNOSIS HELP LINK

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi, I am in the process of building a 60g cube, and figured I’d take advantage of Petco sales and get a 20g for an observation tank, and to get my first fish.
I was lucky enough to find 2 black storms at Petco for less than $40/fish (bad to buy from Petco, I know, but couldn’t pass up on $200 savings!!)
These fish have been with me for 3 weeks, and the smaller one has been flashing, gasping, and doing weird behaviors. After some research I’ve found it could be from submitting to the dominant, larger fish.
However, the “gasping” and mouth breathing seem very fast, and the fish is laying down frequently too.
I have purchased a chunk of recommended medications by humblefish.
I’ve done a preventative fw dip, and this fish is eating super well.
0 Ammonia
0 Nitrite
15 Nitrate
1 Phosphate
Before I pre-maturely diagnose and medicate with cupramine or prazipro, could anyone offer a second opinion?
Thanks!

I believe this is an aggression issue as there is some fin damage and the tremor behavior is a defense behavior. Disregard nitrate which is freshwater specific and consider quality kits such as Hanna or salifert brand.
Prazi can be used but dont believe there is a worm/fluke issue . Observation tanks offer a delay for issues at hand and best to go with a conventional quarantining.

 

[abrichy]

I believe this is an aggression issue as there is some fin damage and the tremor behavior is a defense behavior. Disregard nitrate which is freshwater specific and consider quality kits such as Hanna or salifert brand.
Prazi can be used but dont believe there is a worm/fluke issue . Observation tanks offer a delay for issues at hand and best to go with a conventional quarantining.

Can you show me where the fin damage is? From what I can see, there is some coloring/patters that look like it, but I personally cannot see any damage.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Can you show me where the fin damage is? From what I can see, there is some coloring/patters that look like it, but I personally cannot see any damage.

Yes I see its coloration which blended with backing and appeared as a tear lol

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Hi, I am in the process of building a 60g cube, and figured I’d take advantage of Petco sales and get a 20g for an observation tank, and to get my first fish.
I was lucky enough to find 2 black storms at Petco for less than $40/fish (bad to buy from Petco, I know, but couldn’t pass up on $200 savings!!)
These fish have been with me for 3 weeks, and the smaller one has been flashing, gasping, and doing weird behaviors. After some research I’ve found it could be from submitting to the dominant, larger fish.
However, the “gasping” and mouth breathing seem very fast, and the fish is laying down frequently too.
I have purchased a chunk of recommended medications by humblefish.
I’ve done a preventative fw dip, and this fish is eating super well.
0 Ammonia
0 Nitrite
15 Nitrate
1 Phosphate
Before I pre-maturely diagnose and medicate with cupramine or prazipro, could anyone offer a second opinion?
Thanks!

What test are you using for ammonia?
What test kit to you have for the Cupramine?

I don't see any evidence of serious aggression - no ripped fins, and the fish are swimming well next to each other. Were they from the same tank at Petco?

 

[abrichy]

What test are you using for ammonia?
What test kit to you have for the Cupramine?

I don't see any evidence of serious aggression - no ripped fins, and the fish are swimming well next to each other. Were they from the same tank at Petco?

Thanks for the reply.
I have just the API SW test kit for ammonia and nitrite.
I have not started dosing cupramine yet, but I’ll be using the salifert kit. I’ve heard Hanna checker has had inconsistent results with cupramine.
But yes, they were in the same tank at petco, and the petco employee said they came from the same bag too.