New Anemone Care

pynakerm

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 4, 2022
Messages
28
Reaction score
11
Location
Green Bay
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
My son gave me a beautiful anemone and clownfish duo yesterday as a Christmas gift. They are both doing well and the new clown fish has become fast friends with my existing clown. The anemone has taken up residence in a rock cave and seems to be happy there, even though the light isn't exceptionally bright. When would you suggest I start feeding it? What foods have you had the most success with? Any other suggestions? Thank you!

20221221_061926.jpg
 

olonmv

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 23, 2021
Messages
1,864
Reaction score
1,929
Location
Mars
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Nems need good strong lighting. Your tank also looks relatively new. Very thoughtful of your son but, nems need established tanks to thrive, typically tanks that have been running for at least a year if started with dead rock. The nem looks like a long tip anemone and they’re finicky.
 
OP
OP
P

pynakerm

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 4, 2022
Messages
28
Reaction score
11
Location
Green Bay
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thank you for your quick reply. You are correct, the tank is only 2 months old. However rhe rocks, substrate and sump material were from an established tank that was moved to my home.

In light of their finicky nature and the newness of my tank, how would you suggest I proceed? Should I try to find another home or just watch for warning signs of failure to thrive?
 

olonmv

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 23, 2021
Messages
1,864
Reaction score
1,929
Location
Mars
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thank you for your quick reply. You are correct, the tank is only 2 months old. However rhe rocks, substrate and sump material were from an established tank that was moved to my home.

In light of their finicky nature and the newness of my tank, how would you suggest I proceed? Should I try to find another home or just watch for warning signs of failure to thrive?
If rocks and substrate are from an established mature tank and have stabilized in your tank the nem has a better chance at life. Nems require adequate lighting and stable parameters. Test regularly. It’s also a good idea to keep meds on hand like ciprofloxacin for when/if your nem shows signs of distress. Feeding nems isn’t required but they’ll accept just about anything. Let him settle for at least a week before introducing food to him. In the meantime he’ll catch whatever is in the water column to eat. Post what kind of light you have, to gauge whether or not it’s strong enough.
 

glency

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 10, 2021
Messages
385
Reaction score
329
Location
san Diego
Rating - 100%
3   0   0
Nems are beautiful creatures and the symbiotic relationship with clownfish is something very special. I love nems. Have several. Killed several because I was impatient. I gave up trying to keep them after several were killed. I didn’t try again until my tank was about a year old and they thrive. People would always say the tank was immature, but I didn’t want to believe it. Believe it. It can’t be clearly explained because honestly, I don’t think anyone knows. One thing for sure, tank maturity is definitely an anecdotal thing that I agree with. Now, since you got it as a gift,not much you can do about that. Maybe a LFS will take it for credit? I know it sounds harsh, and I don’t mean to be, but my experience is that it will not thrive. It might, and I would be happy if it does, but it probably won’t. Someone in a thread here explained “tank maturity” like this and I thought it was great (paraphrasing): “are you more comfortable in a clean sanitary room or your grandmas house with all her stuff filling every room?” Now, if you have a hoarding grandma that would be a different story, but I get the picture. Good luck.
The clown in the pic is about 2”
42129F78-DF74-4422-922E-42B626FAE509.jpeg
 

Cthulukelele

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 20, 2018
Messages
3,085
Reaction score
6,086
Location
Durham, North Carolina
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Nems are beautiful creatures and the symbiotic relationship with clownfish is something very special. I love nems. Have several. Killed several because I was impatient. I gave up trying to keep them after several were killed. I didn’t try again until my tank was about a year old and they thrive. People would always say the tank was immature, but I didn’t want to believe it. Believe it. It can’t be clearly explained because honestly, I don’t think anyone knows. One thing for sure, tank maturity is definitely an anecdotal thing that I agree with. Now, since you got it as a gift,not much you can do about that. Maybe a LFS will take it for credit? I know it sounds harsh, and I don’t mean to be, but my experience is that it will not thrive. It might, and I would be happy if it does, but it probably won’t. Someone in a thread here explained “tank maturity” like this and I thought it was great (paraphrasing): “are you more comfortable in a clean sanitary room or your grandmas house with all her stuff filling every room?” Now, if you have a hoarding grandma that would be a different story, but I get the picture. Good luck.
The clown in the pic is about 2”
42129F78-DF74-4422-922E-42B626FAE509.jpeg
Yeah "tank maturing" is really a catch all term for achieving some level of stability, and even beyond the stability there seems to be some level of intangible tank health that comes with age as different microorganisms grow out.

All that being said, it's possible you can be successful with the long tentacle anemone. If it starts to close up for days at a time it is likely beyond saving. If it does die, give it at least like 4-6 months and try again, but maybe start with a bubble tip anemone. They tend to be easier.
 

Cthulukelele

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 20, 2018
Messages
3,085
Reaction score
6,086
Location
Durham, North Carolina
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
That also looks like a fairly healthy anemone to start with. It hasn't yet begun to bleach out. It would be a good barometer for which to gauge how well it's doing. Make sure it's getting a bit of food at least a few times a week. If it is walking all over the tank, invest in some powerhead covers so it doesn't get sucked in. Keep an eye on it going from brown to white.
 

Jekyl

GSP is the devil and clowns are bad pets
View Badges
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
12,484
Reaction score
16,937
Location
Michigan
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
The rocks being mature and still so white concerns me. Are you using RODI? Have lighting meant for coral? As others have mentioned, age is a factor. However if the other criteria aren't met, age doesn't matter.
 

LiamPM

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 9, 2016
Messages
460
Reaction score
584
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Its extremely hard to believe those pearly white rocks are from a mature setup? Were they kept in the dark?

Anemones require light, plenty of it, some more than others - The first thing we all need to know is what light you are working with. A mature tank means nothing if your light isnt up to par to begin with and just calling it not very bright gives me the impression it really wont be.

Probably worth mentioning to your son (must be old enough to understand if he purchased an anemone from a shop without you knowing until it was home) that some things just dont fit into all tanks - Anemones seem to be the culprits a lot but i couldnt imagine what everyone would do with a fish if it was completely unsuitable and brought home as a gift. Worth the tip.
 

olonmv

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 23, 2021
Messages
1,864
Reaction score
1,929
Location
Mars
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Its extremely hard to believe those pearly white rocks are from a mature setup? Were they kept in the dark?

Anemones require light, plenty of it, some more than others - The first thing we all need to know is what light you are working with. A mature tank means nothing if your light isnt up to par to begin with and just calling it not very bright gives me the impression it really wont be.

Probably worth mentioning to your son (must be old enough to understand if he purchased an anemone from a shop without you knowing until it was home) that some things just dont fit into all tanks - Anemones seem to be the culprits a lot but i couldnt imagine what everyone would do with a fish if it was completely unsuitable and brought home as a gift. Worth the tip.
When I first started my tank I was gifted a goldfish. Had to tell them that it was a freshwater fish and that I couldn’t use it. I felt bad but, there was nothing I could do for the fish. Luckily, PetSmart where the fish was bought was nice enough to reimburse them after they explained why it was being brought back.
 
OP
OP
P

pynakerm

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 4, 2022
Messages
28
Reaction score
11
Location
Green Bay
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
The rocks being mature and still so white concerns me. Are you using RODI? Have lighting meant for coral? As others have mentioned, age is a factor. However if the other criteria aren't met, age doesn't matter.

Its extremely hard to believe those pearly white rocks are from a mature setup? Were they kept in the dark?

Anemones require light, plenty of it, some more than others - The first thing we all need to know is what light you are working with. A mature tank means nothing if your light isnt up to par to begin with and just calling it not very bright gives me the impression it really wont be.

Probably worth mentioning to your son (must be old enough to understand if he purchased an anemone from a shop without you knowing until it was home) that some things just dont fit into all tanks - Anemones seem to be the culprits a lot but i couldnt imagine what everyone would do with a fish if it was completely unsuitable and brought home as a gift. Worth the tip.
Thank you for your reply. The rocks do look especially clean in this photo but they didn't a few weeks ago, before I added an amazing cleanup crew.

I have an Aquatic Edge Reef LED light using the default lighting program. I can increase the amount of bright light if necessary. I had just meant that the anemone hasn't chosen an especially bright spot in the tank. I would have expected it to locate itself towards the top of the rocks.

Yes, by rights my son shouldn't have gifted a living creature. It's never a good idea but his heart was sutely in the right place. He manages several healthy/established reef tanks for others, and has been assisting with mine, but we are both still learning and need to be careful.

I will watch for signs of stress or deterioration and act accordingly. As I mentioned, I have possibilities as it relates to rehoming. Today, the anemone still looks well and I will continue to monitor. Thank you again for the feedback. It is very much appreciated.
 

Attachments

  • 20221127_184019.jpg
    20221127_184019.jpg
    151.2 KB · Views: 59
  • 20221203_190828.jpg
    20221203_190828.jpg
    162.9 KB · Views: 71
OP
OP
P

pynakerm

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 4, 2022
Messages
28
Reaction score
11
Location
Green Bay
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
The rocks being mature and still so white concerns me. Are you using RODI? Have lighting meant for coral? As others have mentioned, age is a factor. However if the other criteria aren't met, age doesn't matter.Thank you for your response. I recently added a cleanup crew (probably too many) that have done fantastic work on the rocks. They most definitely didn't look like that as the tank cycled.

I have a 5 state RODI unit and Aquatic Edge lighting. I plan to upgrade the lighting in the next month or two as I feel it could be brighter. It is adequate, but not strong enough to flouresce my corals as well as I would like. Do you have suggestions for better lighting?
 

Attachments

  • 20221210_191935.jpg
    20221210_191935.jpg
    329.9 KB · Views: 66

Cthulukelele

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 20, 2018
Messages
3,085
Reaction score
6,086
Location
Durham, North Carolina
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have a 5 state RODI unit and Aquatic Edge lighting. I plan to upgrade the lighting in the next month or two as I feel it could be brighter. It is adequate, but not strong enough to flouresce my corals as well as I would like. Do you have suggestions for better lighting?
That light is inadequate for high light corals. If looking for a cheap option these black box leds pack enough punch usually.

WILLS Aquarium Lights Dimmable Full Spectrum 165W Fish Tank LED Planted Aquarium Lights for Freshwater Saltwater LED Coral Reef(15.7"x 8.3"x2.4) https://a.co/d/9F2NwFy

Gotta tune it in yourself though. Good luck! That lock looks a lot more live than the previous photo
 

dedragon

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 23, 2019
Messages
6,109
Reaction score
4,535
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
The lighting budget, corals you are wanting to keep in the future, tank dimensions, and personal aesthetics all play a part in what lighting will be best for you. What are you looking for?
 

Jekyl

GSP is the devil and clowns are bad pets
View Badges
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
12,484
Reaction score
16,937
Location
Michigan
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
What is your budget for lights?
 
OP
OP
P

pynakerm

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 4, 2022
Messages
28
Reaction score
11
Location
Green Bay
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
That light is inadequate for high light corals. If looking for a cheap option these black box leds pack enough punch usually.

WILLS Aquarium Lights Dimmable Full Spectrum 165W Fish Tank LED Planted Aquarium Lights for Freshwater Saltwater LED Coral Reef(15.7"x 8.3"x2.4) https://a.co/d/9F2NwFy

Gotta tune it in yourself though. Good luck! That lock looks a lot more live than the previous photo
Thank you so much for the lighting suggestion. That looks a lot more reasonable then some of the units I have been looking at. Perhaps a nice first step towards my ideal future state.

The entire tank looked like this before I got the cleanup crew. Based on some of the responses, I am a little worried that perhaps I have too many snails and crabs. Is that something I should be concerned with? Thanks again for your feedback.
 

Jekyl

GSP is the devil and clowns are bad pets
View Badges
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
12,484
Reaction score
16,937
Location
Michigan
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thank you so much for the lighting suggestion. That looks a lot more reasonable then some of the units I have been looking at. Perhaps a nice first step towards my ideal future state.

The entire tank looked like this before I got the cleanup crew. Based on some of the responses, I am a little worried that perhaps I have too many snails and crabs. Is that something I should be concerned with? Thanks again for your feedback.
Snails and crabs can't stop a tank from maturing
 

dedragon

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 23, 2019
Messages
6,109
Reaction score
4,535
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thank you so much for the lighting suggestion. That looks a lot more reasonable then some of the units I have been looking at. Perhaps a nice first step towards my ideal future state.

The entire tank looked like this before I got the cleanup crew. Based on some of the responses, I am a little worried that perhaps I have too many snails and crabs. Is that something I should be concerned with? Thanks again for your feedback.
I would still write down your budget if you know what it is. That light will work but wont be nicest as many black boxes are. If you can spend more it is recommended to just buy a nicer light that can stay with you longer rather than spending now and spending more later for something you might want
 
OP
OP
P

pynakerm

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 4, 2022
Messages
28
Reaction score
11
Location
Green Bay
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
The lighting budget, corals you are wanting to keep in the future, tank dimensions, and personal aesthetics all play a part in what lighting will be best for you. What are you looking for?
I have had my eye on staghorn, daisy and rock flower corals/anemone for the future but have been happy with the leather, mushroom and zoanthid corals I have now. The budget is somewhat flexible but I'd prefer to keep it around $500 with the ability to scale to $700 if it made a significant difference.

My tank is a 72G bow front, with the dimensions of 48″ x 18″ x 22″. My dream is a vibrantly colored reef with several tangs and a queen or two (if the latter won't destroy my coral). Moving to a larger tank in the future is not outside of the realm of possibility.
 
Last edited:

Jekyl

GSP is the devil and clowns are bad pets
View Badges
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
12,484
Reaction score
16,937
Location
Michigan
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Cheap option would be an LED strip. If wanting numerous tangs, a larger tank will be needed first. Might as well save on lighting until the switch is made.
 

HAVE YOU EVER KEPT A RARE/UNCOMMON FISH, CORAL, OR INVERT? SHOW IT OFF IN THE THREAD!

  • Yes!

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Not yet, but I have one that I want to buy in mind!

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 26 37.1%
  • Other (please explain).

    Votes: 3 4.3%
Back
Top