Lost two fish now and clownfish covered but looked clean yesterday

[callen.haines]

Have quarantine set up is this ick? can treat rigjt away

 

[vetteguy53081]

Have quarantine set up is this ick? can treat rigjt away

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Id love to help but pic does no justice. It is very dark- Please retake under white lighting. This is what I see:

 

[callen.haines]

Id love to help but pic does no justice. It is very dark- Please retake under white lighting. This is what I see:

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[callen.haines]

Id love to help but pic does no justice. It is very dark- Please retake under white lighting. This is what I see:

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My guess is brooklynella i have 37% formaldehyde gonna run and grab an air stone, let me know if you agree

 

[vetteguy53081]

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Here is the power of good photos, zooming in, I see both mucus and spots which suggest brooklynella which often affects wild caught clowns. The most significant sign is the amount of slime on its body. The thick mucus on its body is a second sign which is noticeable on the fish. This mucus generally starts at the facial area as well as gills and spreads across the body producing lesions as it progresses often confused with ich and can turn into secondary bacteria. Other symptoms will be lethargic behavior, refusing to eat and heavy breathing from the mucus.
Typical treatment is a formalin solution is mixed with in a separate container with either fresh or saltwater. Start with a quick dip in the formalin at a higher concentration then performing treatment in a prolonged bath of formalin base at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank. The longer the fish are exposed to the formalin treatment the more effective it will be at eliminating this issue.
If a formalin solution is not available for immediate use, temporary relief can be achieved by giving the fish a FW bath or dip in water same temperature as display tank. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank using either quick cure (more effective) or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.
With the advanced stage of this- I recommend immediate quarantine of all inhabitants and leaving display without fish for 4-6 weeks.
A quarantine system if you dont have one can be as simple as a starter tank kit from walmart which has most of the essentials

 

[callen.haines]

Here is the power of good photos, zooming in, I see both mucus and spots which suggest brooklynella which often affects wild caught clowns. The most significant sign is the amount of slime on its body. The thick mucus on its body is a second sign which is noticeable on the fish. This mucus generally starts at the facial area as well as gills and spreads across the body producing lesions as it progresses often confused with ich and can turn into secondary bacteria. Other symptoms will be lethargic behavior, refusing to eat and heavy breathing from the mucus.
Typical treatment is a formalin solution is mixed with in a separate container with either fresh or saltwater. Start with a quick dip in the formalin at a higher concentration then performing treatment in a prolonged bath of formalin base at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank. The longer the fish are exposed to the formalin treatment the more effective it will be at eliminating this issue.
If a formalin solution is not available for immediate use, temporary relief can be achieved by giving the fish a FW bath or dip in water same temperature as display tank. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank using either quick cure (more effective) or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.
With the advanced stage of this- I recommend immediate quarantine of all inhabitants and leaving display without fish for 4-6 weeks.
A quarantine system if you dont have one can be as simple as a starter tank kit from walmart which has most of the essentials

Okay air stone in the dip as well correct? and what concentration for the dip?

 

[callen.haines]

Here is the power of good photos, zooming in, I see both mucus and spots which suggest brooklynella which often affects wild caught clowns. The most significant sign is the amount of slime on its body. The thick mucus on its body is a second sign which is noticeable on the fish. This mucus generally starts at the facial area as well as gills and spreads across the body producing lesions as it progresses often confused with ich and can turn into secondary bacteria. Other symptoms will be lethargic behavior, refusing to eat and heavy breathing from the mucus.
Typical treatment is a formalin solution is mixed with in a separate container with either fresh or saltwater. Start with a quick dip in the formalin at a higher concentration then performing treatment in a prolonged bath of formalin base at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank. The longer the fish are exposed to the formalin treatment the more effective it will be at eliminating this issue.
If a formalin solution is not available for immediate use, temporary relief can be achieved by giving the fish a FW bath or dip in water same temperature as display tank. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank using either quick cure (more effective) or Ruby Rally Pro. Ruby takes a little longer and initial treatment generally takes 2-3 days to really start going to work.
With the advanced stage of this- I recommend immediate quarantine of all inhabitants and leaving display without fish for 4-6 weeks.
A quarantine system if you dont have one can be as simple as a starter tank kit from walmart which has most of the essentials

I know the concentration now how long should i leave him in the dip?

 

[vetteguy53081]

I know the concentration now how long should i leave him in the dip?

FW dip = 5 minutes
Bath = 60 minutes
Treatment = 30 days

 

[callen.haines]

FW dip = 5 minutes
Bath = 60 minutes
Treatment = 30 days

How much formalin should I put in my 10g QT for 30 days?

 

[callen.haines]

FW dip = 5 minutes
Bath = 60 minutes
Treatment = 30 days

He is in bath right now already looks fairly better eye mucus is off, update on qt procedure if possible 30 mins left in bath thank you so much

 

[callen.haines]

@Jay Hemdal Anything else I should do?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I agree it looks like Brook. What formalin dose did you use for the dip? The typical range is 75 to166 ppm. I often go 150 ppm.

For in tank formalin treatments, you would dose 25 ppm daily, but I wouldn't go a full 30 days, I'd try 5 days and see how it does.

To calculate PPM, use this formula: gallons * PPM / 266 = ml of formalin. So - a ten gallon tank usually only holds 8 gallons of water. 25 * 8 / 266 = 0.75 ml formalin

Remember, formalin is highly toxic. Always use safety PPE with it. Some people will not use formalin in their homes because it off gases and they don't want to breath it. I cannot tell you if that is a risk or not.

Jay

 

[callen.haines]

I agree it looks like Brook. What formalin dose did you use for the dip? The typical range is 75 to166 ppm. I often go 150 ppm.

For in tank formalin treatments, you would dose 25 ppm daily, but I wouldn't go a full 30 days, I'd try 5 days and see how it does.

To calculate PPM, use this formula: gallons * PPM / 266 = ml of formalin. So - a ten gallon tank usually only holds 8 gallons of water. 25 * 8 / 266 = 0.75 ml formalin

Remember, formalin is highly toxic. Always use safety PPE with it. Some people will not use formalin in their homes because it off gases and they don't want to breath it. I cannot tell you if that is a risk or not.

Jay

Hey J this is the formaldehyde i’m using

 

[callen.haines]

I agree it looks like Brook. What formalin dose did you use for the dip? The typical range is 75 to166 ppm. I often go 150 ppm.

For in tank formalin treatments, you would dose 25 ppm daily, but I wouldn't go a full 30 days, I'd try 5 days and see how it does.

To calculate PPM, use this formula: gallons * PPM / 266 = ml of formalin. So - a ten gallon tank usually only holds 8 gallons of water. 25 * 8 / 266 = 0.75 ml formalin

Remember, formalin is highly toxic. Always use safety PPE with it. Some people will not use formalin in their homes because it off gases and they don't want to breath it. I cannot tell you if that is a risk or not.

Jay

Also his breathing is still fairly rapid, but it seems that a lot of the mucus as came off especially off of his eyes

 

[vetteguy53081]

I agree it looks like Brook. What formalin dose did you use for the dip? The typical range is 75 to166 ppm. I often go 150 ppm.

For in tank formalin treatments, you would dose 25 ppm daily, but I wouldn't go a full 30 days, I'd try 5 days and see how it does.

To calculate PPM, use this formula: gallons * PPM / 266 = ml of formalin. So - a ten gallon tank usually only holds 8 gallons of water. 25 * 8 / 266 = 0.75 ml formalin

Remember, formalin is highly toxic. Always use safety PPE with it. Some people will not use formalin in their homes because it off gases and they don't want to breath it. I cannot tell you if that is a risk or not.

Jay

Thank you Jay= was gone shopping

 

[vetteguy53081]

He is in bath right now already looks fairly better eye mucus is off, update on qt procedure if possible 30 mins left in bath thank you so much

Keep in mind, FW dip is a temporary measure for relief and not a cure but sure helps

 

[callen.haines]

Keep in mind, FW dip is a temporary measure for relief and not a cure but sure helps

Yes i am aware I FW dipped for 5 mins and formaldehyde for 60 minutes now less concentrated in QT...

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yes i am aware I FW dipped for 5 mins and formaldehyde for 60 minutes now less concentrated in QT...

Im sure but many you'd be surprised do this daily and just assuring

 

[callen.haines]

Im sure but many you'd be surprised do this daily and just assuring

Oh like fresh water dip every day and hope that saves their fish LOL

 

[callen.haines]

Im sure but many you'd be surprised do this daily and just assuring

His breathing already seems to be calming down