Like a 'broken record'...(Quarantine- again)

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Total: 1, Members: 0, Guests: 1)

uniquecorals

UniqueCorals
View Badges
Joined
Nov 23, 2006
Messages
13,377
Reaction score
11,088
Location
Los Angeles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Like a 'broken record'...(Quarantine- again)

I spoke with a fairly advanced reefer the other day, who had a terrible tragedy in his reef that could have been avoided with a very simple practice; one which he should have developed during his hobby "infancy."

But he didn't. And he paid the price with lots of expensive dead fish.

I've heard this so many times before that it's not even funny.

It seems that the longer I've been in this hobby, the more often the same issues keep coming up. We seem to collectively go through periods of time where we as a whole show this incredible hobby "maturity", creating incredible technique for practices such as fish breeding, systems design, etc. I think we're in one of these 'Reefing Rennaisance" periods, with all kinds of good stuff happening. However, during these good times, it seems as though we often forget some of the most basic stuff...things that will only help us- but stuff so fundamental that it seems to be a given..but it's not.

As hardcore reefers, we spend tons of time, effort, and money creating the best-possible environment for the animals that we keep. Yet, sadly, one of the biggest single things we can do to assure the continued health and prosperity of our fishes and invertebrates is simply overlooked by the majority of us: Quarantine of newly-received fishes.

In my many discussions with hundreds of hobbyists over the years, I am pretty much blown away to hear that virtually none of them execute any quarantine procedures whatsoever with their new animals. Seriously- I'm talking like a handful out of hundreds. Craziness! Many of them are not beginners; some of them are super "advanced" hobbyists with extremely complex systems. Many have thousands, or even tens of thousands of dollars invested in equipment and livestock, yet they continually play "Russian roulette" with their animals' lives by simply adding newly purchased animals directly to their tanks. I have seen numerous postings on Internet discussion boards from hobbyists describing "anomalous" fish losses after introducing newly acquired animals without quarantine. I mean, seriously?


Why do we, as a group, tend to neglect the quarantine process? I've heard every excuse in the book. Some of my favorites: "Quarantine is too time consuming." (from a reefer who has every electronic gadget known to man, programmed to do everything but wipe the algae off the front glass), "It's too difficult" (again, from a reefer with a super-complex $30,000 system), "My LFS has had this fish for 2 weeks," (don't even start me on this one...), etc. While I won't attempt to "debunk" all of the excuses that us hobbyists give for not quarantining animals, I will address some of the most common ones, and outline the ridiculously simple process of quarantine, and how it can ensure your greater success with fishes.

gramma-dejongi-hybrid.jpg

"Dude, I'm SO worth it..." - Gramma dejongi (hybrid)


One of the most common excuses that I hear for not quarantining newly-received fishes is that the animal was at the LFS or vendor for a period of time before it was purchased and looked healthy. Since the fish was at the store, for say, two weeks, and shows no outward signs of disease, many hobbyists assume that the fish is "quarantined" and healthy. Yikes! This is definitely not the case! Think about it: Do you really believe that no other fish could have come in contact with the fish that you are purchasing in two weeks? Is it truly possible that no one at the dealer's shop put his or her hands into another tank before working in the tank containing your potential purchase? Do you really believe that there have been no introductions of new fish, or potential cross-contamination of this tank by other, possibly sick fish? I don't think so.

Even at Unique Corals, I have customers assume that, because we hold a fish for long periods of time, all is okay. It's not. Shared systems invite disease, much like one of those airport playrooms does for kids. Eww, get the wet wipes..! Ohh, and there's the fact that some diseases do not manifest themselves with visible symptoms until it's too late, giving you the false impression that the fish is healthy. Despite the best intentions of well-meaning livestock vendors, with all of the livestock coming and going regularly, the potential for infection in our systems is quite high. It's a reality of what we do. However, by executing prophylactic acclimation and quarantine, it is possible to virtually eliminate the possibility of disease entering your own system. Yep.

Many other hobbyists who don't routinely quarantine their newly-received fishes state that the fish was wild caught, and therefore was not exposed to pathogens present in a dealer's system. This assumption overlooks an important fact. Virtually all-marine organisms for aquariums are wild-caught, and they are all potential and real carriers of infectious and parasitic diseases. There are numerous opportunities for a fish to become stressed, exposed to disease, or infected during the long journey from the reef to your tank. Stress during transit, along with lack of food, is probably the number one cause of fish diseases in the hobby. Don't turn a blind eye to this!

Another common excuse I hear for not quarantining new arrivals is that the equipment involved is too complex or expensive, the process too tedious and the stress to the animals is too great. I especially love the "too expensive" argument from a reefers who spent $1,000 on a system to monitor their reef. I mean, really? Once again, this is not the case. It's super-easy...and cheap! The tools for quarantine are nothing more complex than a small aquarium, simple filter, and heater. The process of quarantine is simple and often stress free for the fish. And can save untold thousands in the long run...

Proper acclimation and quarantine procedures involve the dipping of fish in freshwater/prophylactic baths, and a nice, comfortable 21-day stay in a private aquarium before being introduced to your display. Few things that a hobbyist can do are as simple and effective as quarantine to guard against potential spread of disease and loss. "It's so easy, a caveman could do it." Wait, I borrowed that line from somewhere, huh?

Still not convinced? You might be nuts, but there is still hope. Well, let me rant here for a few more minutes and you'll realize how easy the process really is. Then you can go back to worshipping your Monti Caps, okay?


The equipment involved for quarantine is ridiculously simple. I mean, you have half of this stuff in your closet or garage right now if you're a self-respecting aquarium geek. You'll need a small glass/acrylic tank with cover (from 10 - 40 gallons, depending upon the size/number of fishes that you're going to quarantine), outside power, canister, or sponge filter, and a reliable aquarium heater of sufficient wattage for the tank that you're using. Other items include an accurate thermometer, a dedicated net (that will not be used in any other aquarium), siphon for water changes, and test kits for any therapeutic agents that you will be using, such as copper.

quarantine.jpg

If you don't have it in your closet, they have it at the LFS. Cheap.


That's about all you need! No rocks, gravel, or other substrate is used, and no chemical filtration media, as these materials can potentially bind with or absorb any medications you may be using. Inert materials such as PVC pipe sections may be used to create hiding places for your fishes.


Setting up is a very simple process, even easier than programming your new lighting system, trust me. You just fill the aquarium with water from your main system. Introduce the filter, plug in the heater, and you're ready to go. Oh, here's a tip: If you keep your filter sponge or other quarantine tank filter media in your main system's sump when the quarantine tank is not running, you will always have a filter that is fully colonized by beneficial bacteria at all times. Great for impulsive purchases, right?

image_large_zpsa7c25a16.jpg

I mean, that's really complex, huh?


Following a proper drip acclimation procedure(See here: Acclimation), introduce your fishes to the quarantine aquarium. If you really want to be thorough, before you place your fishes into the QT, consider using a three minute dip in freshwater with methylene blue to potentially kill any external parasites on the fish. It's scary to watch, but I've never lost a fish in this process. Once the fishes are in the tank, I highly recommend that you don't run the lights, for at least the first 24 hours to give the new fishes a chance to settle in after a rough journey. In fact, ambient room light is usually fine.

It's a good idea to wait overnight before attempting to feed your new arrivals, as they are usually not inclined to eat right off the bat. I mean, would YOU want to eat after all of that? Besides, cleanliness in the quarantine tank is of utmost importance. Any uneaten food should be promptly siphoned from the tank to avoid pollution.

The quarantine tank's water chemical parameters (pH, etc.) and temperature should approximate these found in your main system. Some hobbyists like to run their quarantine tank at a lower specific gravity (as low as 1.010) to assist in eliminating parasites, but I like to keep the quarantine tank at a "normal" specific gravity (1.022 - 1.026). Since you are working with a smaller volume of water in most cases, it's important to follow a diligent schedule of small water changes. Assuming that your main system is healthy, you can utilize water from the main tank to replace the water in your quarantine tank. Since it is the water that your new charges will eventually be living in, I can't think of a better use for wastewater from your main system's routine water changes (you are doing regular water changes, aren't you?). The fishes will be immediately adapted to the chemistry of the display they will ultimately be residing in.

Here's the toughest part for you: The quarantine period should last 21 days. I mean, that's three episodes of that wretched "Tanked" (hey, it's my opinion), or like 6 episodes of "American Idol." Can you handle it? Yeah, if you can stomach that kind of TV, you can.

SpongeBoB-Toyota-Highlander-Tanked-Edition-cargo-area-tank-3.jpg

Three weeks of "inspiration" while you're waiting it out...you can do it!


During the quarantine period, observe your fishes daily and be sure to keep an eye out for any potential infection. Obvious signs of illness, such as rapid respiration, open sores, fungus, etc. require recognition and quick action on the part of the aquarist. As you will find, the quarantine tank presents a perfect environment to treat fish diseases before they can spread to your main system.

What do you do if your fishes do become ill during the quarantine period? Two things: First, take the appropriate actions to treat your fishes, and second, pat yourself on the back for having the foresight to utilize quarantine procedures with your fishes! Unfortunate though it may be, you will receive the best possible lesson on why quarantine is so important, and you'll be blabbing to all of your fellow hobbyists just like I do on the merits of quarantine.

brook_01.jpg

Catch it early- save lives. Totally worth it.


Keep in mind that, should disease rear its ugly head during quarantine, you'll need to reset the clock for another 21 days after you have successfully eradicated the ailment. There would be absolutely no point in rushing to add your newly cured fishes to your main system at that stage of the game. Like all aspects of reef keeping, patience is truly a virtue with quarantine, and it will, reward you and your fishes, trust me.

Should you acquire more new fishes while you are in the middle of the quarantine period (this never happens, right?), you have two options: either add the new fishes to the quarantine tank (after appropriate prophylactic dips/baths) and reset the calendar for 21 MORE days, OR you can set up a new quarantine tank! Either way, you have to stick to the 21-day rule. It's that important. It gives time for any potential diseases to manifest themselves.

In addition to being an invaluable aid in the prevention of disease in your main system, the quarantine tank provides a perfect environment for newly-received fishes to "toughen up" and rest after the long ordeal of capture, shipping, and handling. Your fish will be refreshed, well fed, and most important of all, healthy after a stay in your quarantine tank. This can't be overlooked. I can't tell you how many times I was able to get that "hard-to-feed" Butterfly, Anthias, or Wrasse to eat in the QT tank before placing it in the display.

When the 21 days are up, and your new fishes have been introduced to their new home, you can break down and thoroughly clean the quarantine system. Be sure that none of the equipment from your quarantine tank comes in contact with your main system before it has been cleaned, particularly if you were utilizing copper or other therapeutic agents in the tank. Your sponge filter or other filter media may then be sterilized and placed back in the sump of your main system to re-colonize beneficial, ready for your next new arrivals. Easy.

Hopefully, you are at least a bit more convinced of the value of the quarantine tank, and the piece of mind and other benefits it provides.

Such a simple concept, yet an important part of our "maturity" in the hobby. You have a "big boy/girl tank", now practice "big boy/girl reef keeping". A quarantine tank is used at all public aquariums as a first line of defense against the introduction of disease. Aquarists at public aquariums cannot afford the risk of infecting their entire population of fishes, neither should you. Just do it.

So, until next time, quarantine those fishes, because I'm getting tired of telling people to do it all the time!

And above all,

Stay wet.

Scott Fellman
Unique Corals
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Eric B

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 21, 2009
Messages
549
Reaction score
27
Location
Atlanta, GA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Well said Scott and also you can use Matrix media in a bag in the main tank sump for bacteria on impulse purchases instead of a sponge.
 

kidkaos520

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Sep 28, 2012
Messages
358
Reaction score
8
Location
AZ
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
GUILTY:crossedlips: I am looking at a fallow tank due to my lack of patience. May is a long time to way *sigh*. I have a cheap hob filter from walmart and took out the filter that has the carbon and blue side on it and just kept the black filter in it. Should I take that and keep it in my display until I am ready to use it or should I get something else.
 

Eienna

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 9, 2013
Messages
5,758
Reaction score
549
Location
Eddyville, KY, USA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Not to mention that it can be nearly impossible to remove a sick fish or a disease like ich once they're in your display...
 

el_ote

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 28, 2013
Messages
52
Reaction score
15
Location
San Jose, CA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
quick question. how is the sponge or filter media sterilized? I assume a bunch of filter floss in a bag is what I can keep and use also, correct?
 

Eienna

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 9, 2013
Messages
5,758
Reaction score
549
Location
Eddyville, KY, USA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
quick question. how is the sponge or filter media sterilized? I assume a bunch of filter floss in a bag is what I can keep and use also, correct?

Yes. It's not the media so much as the beneficial bacteria that has grown on it.
And you can sterilize it (AFTER quarantine use, not before!) with regular unscented bleach. Rinse well.
 
Last edited:

Singlefin

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Mar 21, 2012
Messages
1,068
Reaction score
150
Location
Pacific
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Do you automatically medicate all new fish, or observe for 21 days and medicate if they get sick? Thanks. Great write up. I have fish in quarrantine right now.
 

Eric B

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 21, 2009
Messages
549
Reaction score
27
Location
Atlanta, GA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Do you automatically medicate all new fish, or observe for 21 days and medicate if they get sick? Thanks. Great write up. I have fish in quarrantine right now.

I observe and make sure they are eating and healthy while the fish is in the QT tank and if needed then I medicate as and what is needed.
 

stunreefer

Reef Hugger
View Badges
Joined
Dec 1, 2007
Messages
2,853
Reaction score
657
Location
Under Da Sea
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Couple additions:

  • Hang on back (HOB) power filters have proved as the best means of filtration in QT IME. They kick up quite a bit of flow which will keep the bottom clean, and provide excellent filtration over the mediocre ability of sponge filters. You can leave them running 24/7 as they consume a measly amount of power. I leave heaters off until ~48-72 hours prior to receiving new fish (bacteria will stay alive just fine at ambient room temp). I still consider these filters incredibly affordable, the AquaClear line by Hagen are bulletproof. I oversize the heck out of filters on QT, utilizing AC70 on ten gallon tanks and AC110 on 30 gals (plus a MJ powerhead).

  • Feed tiny amounts, frequently. Any food added to the QT tank that goes uneaten should be considered as immediate waste that will foul the water. Remember many of these newly imported fish have no idea what prepared foods are, live food supplementation (worms, brine shrimp, etc.) is of the utmost importance when dealing with any finicky fish to keep calories going into the fish. Spend time feeding, and feed as often as possible when dealing with new fish.

  • I choose to use fresh made SW opposed to "seasoned" SW simply due to the fact that there may be ailments present in your display you're not aware of because you have a bunch of healthy fish in the system... a stressed fish in QT could pick up these ailments. There's zero ailments in fresh made SW assuming one is not cross-contaminating with hoses/buckets/etc.


Side note: "Worm infections, especially those caused by digenetic Trematodes or Metacercaria and Nematodes are found in 70 to 85% of the marine fish examined." Bassleer, G. (2004) Diseases in marine aquarium fish

So 70-85% of fish come in with these worm infections alone... this percentage does not cover any bacterial, fungal or other parasitic ailments!
 

Eienna

5000 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 9, 2013
Messages
5,758
Reaction score
549
Location
Eddyville, KY, USA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I like to treat for parasites (internal and external) in QT as a rule, because at least internally a parasite load has to get pretty heavy before it becomes obvious, and at that point to treatment can be dangerous - when the parasites die en masse they can cause a blockage in the fish's digestive tract.
 

Bouncingsoul39

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Jun 28, 2011
Messages
1,535
Reaction score
2,033
Location
Los Angeles, CA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Good read. I do think that's it's easy to setup a quarantine tank. The hard part is the actual diagnosing and medicating of the fish once they're in quarantine. There are numerous threads I see "I have this fish in quarantine. What is this? I'm using medication x. Will it work? How long should I use it."
One problem here is people just don't read anymore. They want someone to tell them what to do and how to do it in a couple sentences. There is a plethora of information out there online and in good ol books on how to diagnose and treat marine fish. If you're going to try to quarantine a fish buy one of these books or bookmark a website like wetwebmedia. Avoid the forums. Honestly.
The other thing I hate about medicating fish in this hobby is the popular manufacturers of these meds. The instructions are so vague and hard to follow on some of them. An example from a popular product I used once "Add daily until signs of parasites are gone.". As a poor little helpless noob I did just that and not only were the parasite gone. So were my fish. We really need to push companies like, Seachem, Mardel, Hikari etc. to give more clear and concise directions on using their products. I get the impression that these very vague instructions are given to limit liability? I dunno. But they're bad. Mardel is one of the more responsible companies here that includes id charts and fairly clear instructions though I fear that many people will just see "wall o' text" ok nevermind.

I've read numerous times where people use Prazi-pro in their QT systems and just dose it and leave it in there. They'll say "well after the prazi the fish stopped eating for five days but this is normal" blah blah. Prazi is a freeakin hard core chemical. Marine wholesalers use Prazi as a quick dip or in the acclimation water temporarily but never run in systems regularly as far as I know. Why is this an ok hobby practice? If you're using a medicine that causes a once eating fish to completely stop eating. Is that really ok?

Anyway, rant off.
 

stunreefer

Reef Hugger
View Badges
Joined
Dec 1, 2007
Messages
2,853
Reaction score
657
Location
Under Da Sea
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
One problem here is people just don't read anymore. They want someone to tell them what to do and how to do it in a couple sentences. There is a plethora of information out there online and in good ol books on how to diagnose and treat marine fish. If you're going to try to quarantine a fish buy one of these books or bookmark a website like wetwebmedia. Avoid the forums. Honestly.
Bingo.
The other thing I hate about medicating fish in this hobby is the popular manufacturers of these meds. The instructions are so vague and hard to follow on some of them. An example from a popular product I used once "Add daily until signs of parasites are gone."
I personally use almost exclusively Seachem fish meds and have no issues with their directions. I do recall the directions of their 'Para Guard' being rather vague, however their proprietary 'med blends' are fairly easy on fish by design, and are aimed at the hobby level aquarist (opposed to some meds that are just the straight up med; easy to overdose if not applied correctly).

I've read numerous times where people use Prazi-pro in their QT systems and just dose it and leave it in there. They'll say "well after the prazi the fish stopped eating for five days but this is normal" blah blah. Prazi is a freeakin hard core chemical. Marine wholesalers use Prazi as a quick dip or in the acclimation water temporarily but never run in systems regularly as far as I know. Why is this an ok hobby practice? If you're using a medicine that causes a once eating fish to completely stop eating. Is that really ok?
Praziquantel is a hard core medication when used straight up, absolutely. PraziPro made by Hikari, is not, and is very gentle on fish IME. It should never be dosed then left there, a water change and carbon should be employed once the treatment is finished. I've only had fish stop eating when on PraziPro (and straight Praziquantel for that matter) twice, and they both had some serious internal parasites. After a few days in treatment they had some pretty terrifying poop, then started eating normally. Another commonly used 'med' in the hobby, Copper, effects eating frequently IME.

Anyway, rant off.
"Rants" like this are important, and you hit the nail on the head when it comes to people actually doing some down and dirty learning. Another big issue which will never be overcome: correctly identifying many fish ailments can only be done with a microscope. Even with perfectly focused pictures it's incredibly difficult to identify a ailment, and how often are even good pictures put up when it comes to "My fish is dying" threads? Even though a basic 'scope for our purpose would cost less than many frags these days, I don't expect everyone to get up at once and get one ;) This is where these aforementioned proprietary 'med blends' can be useful for most aquarists (and we're not talkin' about Kick-Ich or any snake oil here).
 
Back
Top