Wait till you try and buy a new car. They are connected to the cloud but have what is called connected services several of which require subscriptions for each. They range for $120-$800 a year depending on which one it is. Not sure how long they would go without connecting to the cloud but they do have built in mobile service so they should be able to where ever they are.
There is a difference between add-on subscription services and the complete inability to use a device unless it is connected. Registration hurdles add to the unacceptable situation. Your use is at the whim of the vendor. Likewise "included" services that are moved to a "paid" tier are also unacceptable.
It will continue to run as setup without the cloud but you would need the cloud to change things so loosing internet for a while is not all bad. I lost internet for 5 day straight but I was able to connect with it with my phone with wifi turned off via bluetooth. That allows you to do overrides of the outputs from off, auto or on if needed. I don't have the IceCap controller but have the Hydros controllers and they do use the same app.
iOS is particularly prone to planned obsolescence because the customer can't install apps without the official store (leading to situations where no apps are available anymore). But if the new EU law has anything to say about that, this will change in the near future.
Literally no one reads a manual for a self explanatory tool. How is the customer supposed to know, factory reset on this device isn't actually factory reset and he has to unregister it before reselling. Sorry but that's just a stupid design, or on purpose. Probably both.
1 - the primary functions of the device (the phone, browser, sms and email) are available without the store.
I still have the apps installed on it but they will not work any longer since they are out of date so going back to an older app which I still have does not work. A few of the apps still work though.
Factory reset does work on the device and will set the device back to the original factory settings but that will not clear the info in the cloud for that device. The original owner can still delete it from their account without having the device. So most of the time all it takes is to contact the seller and have them delete it. Any kind of reset on the device itself is not going to change the information in the cloud. Also with all the controllers in the same cloud base makes it easy for the manufacturer to help with issues since they can get in through the cloud and make changes if needed for you. If everyone used a different cloud that would not be possible for them to do.
Did you get the firmware updated?
Once you setup an output you will need at least one schedule to get the pump to run? I believe the IceCap works the same as a WE LE for the most part since that replaced the IceCap controller.
If this helps any this is one of my schedules for my flow pumps. I have a WEv2 with a RF module that controls my MP10's. This is my morning schedule but if you just want one schedule for now use a start time of 00:00:00 and end time of 00:00:00 for it. You can control more than one pump with one schedule. You don't need to worry about setting a depends on setting with yours.
Its not possible because the manufacturer has no intention to make it possible. There is a difference here. And again if factory reset doesn't give you a factory fresh device, it's not factory reset. The definition is quite simple and includes obligatory internet registration. I can also use a cloud account on my phone for backup. If I factory reset my phone, the cloud connection is gone until I reestablish it or create a new cloud account.
I don't understand your argument.
If you want a controller erased from your account you can do that. All you have to do is delete the device from your account. Then anyone can add that controller to their account. You can also do a factory reset after deleting it if you want and it would be the same as when first purchased other than any firmware updates done on it since it was purchased.
Because you didn’t read it in context. I was responding to your planned iOS obsolescence tangent, that’s all.
You are missing the point. You can’t use it without their permission and intervention. They could for whatever reason deny your request, ignore it or change their policy and force you to “pay” to transfer it for example. Your device functionality is at their whim. They could also force current users to start paying or lose full access or function. Do you “own” it in the sense of having freedoms to use or it as you wish or transfer it to somebody else at your wish? No.
That’s exactly what bmw did with heated seats and other things on their cars.. every car comes equipped with them but you have a monthly or yearly fee to pay or subscribe too, to use those features which I think is bs!
