Any avoidance of that work is simply tradeoff invasions cyano/ dinos/gha forever. Use fluc after it's ripped clean, not before, for the win
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There's no way to fix that other than surgically. Any number of dosers can kill all that algae, then dying cells sink into the bed on top of waste waste already compacted
Consider not putting sand back in this tank once it's fixed too. Going bare bottom can help ease future work.
The tank can be fixed in one ten hour work day. Do it this Saturday
Get brute trash can from home depot, prepare all new water heated and ready. Use no old water
Consider not putting sand back in this tank once it's fixed too. Going bare bottom can help ease future work.
The tank can be fixed in one ten hour work day. Do it this Saturday
Get brute trash can from home depot, prepare all new water heated and ready. Use no old water
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Now that you have heard all of the options and some tough love, roll up your sleeves (literally) and get to scrubbing. it will be awesome when you get done and post pics along the way. By the way, you and your parents will have more appreciation of the tank when you create a beautiful and healthy balanced environment for your pets. Remember to keep up the maintenance after or you will be back in no time to start again.
Good luck and let us know as you go
Good luck and let us know as you go
I promise you your phosphates aren't really zero. You wouldn't have an algae problem if they were. Your phosphates are being used by all the algae and that's why they read zero.
you're getting a zero reading because all the algae are consuming up the phosphate
I agree with Thor2j
I have a great idea. Richard Ross, upcoming macna speaker, should fix this tank live time using no form of rip cleaning
@Thales
I honestly would like to see his way. Our way uses too much water and work to get the fixes. Richard I'll never forget the merciless pounding given recently in the chemistry forum when discussing uselessness of personal anecdote for reef work
time to work live time, on call, on demand. Fair request. If someone pinged me in a reef job I'd be happy to get a chance at outbound work. I would never be offended or post sharply at all in a work thread, they're the best jobs in the board, I love them, we don't get enough of them.
@Thales
I honestly would like to see his way. Our way uses too much water and work to get the fixes. Richard I'll never forget the merciless pounding given recently in the chemistry forum when discussing uselessness of personal anecdote for reef work
time to work live time, on call, on demand. Fair request. If someone pinged me in a reef job I'd be happy to get a chance at outbound work. I would never be offended or post sharply at all in a work thread, they're the best jobs in the board, I love them, we don't get enough of them.
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@Randy Holmes-Farley if you have a way to fix this tank, we need that example set.
This is an honest request to see lesser work tank rehab options for this reefer, it's to broaden his fix options before the due date.
This is an honest request to see lesser work tank rehab options for this reefer, it's to broaden his fix options before the due date.
Sir - you continually make up positions I don't hold then try to take me to task for them. Any conversation in which I have tried to engage you to clear things up ends up with you making up more positions I don't hold, and then scolding me for those positions that are not mine. Please stop - we agree more than we disagree.
Again, anecdote is incredibly useful, I wrote an entire article on the power of anecdote.
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gotcha
thats friendly when contrasted to assertions from Randy's thread, I would have appreciated that mode very much on that day.
can you fix this tank/ we would appreciate the work log example to have diverse options.
rip cleaning isn't very work efficient for large tanks, but then again getting true export from them without manual deep cleaning is also very tricky...
thats friendly when contrasted to assertions from Randy's thread, I would have appreciated that mode very much on that day.
can you fix this tank/ we would appreciate the work log example to have diverse options.
rip cleaning isn't very work efficient for large tanks, but then again getting true export from them without manual deep cleaning is also very tricky...
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That is almost always my mode when I post here
Here is a link to the first of two responses to you in that thead - I don't see anything agro in it, but it seemed to make you upset and you took me to task for a bunch of stuff I didn't understand, so I stopped responding.
Reefers may over-rely on personal experience to accept or reject truth
SLP thank you for that perspective. You are welcome. If you took any of it to heart, mostly the parts about presenting your ideas and not taking disgareemt as ignorance, that would be great. Richard, how about you make a macna talk on you running a non sand rinse work thread, out to page...
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My recommendations are available in easily findable other media. Again, my positions don't really disagree in concept with yours, and I (and others) have been recommending much of what you advocate for 30 or 40 years. Mostly I disagree with some conclusions you make, and the dogmatic nature of your recommendations.
As I said above, much of what you recommend has been recommended for decades.
Have a great day.
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From past interactions with you, you seem to be often be waiting to pounce with a gotcha, so I am going to respectfully decline. Again, my ideas are easily available. Have a great day.
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I'm thinking that the most difficult part of this thread is to provide a clear path, step by step instructions to the highschool distracted reefer who needs to perform a cleanup to remove algae on a time and money budget. The OP has been receptive to solutions, added blackout paper and posted pictures, while step by step specifics are light (or hidden in another thread or video) and conflicting as per recommendations.
I am thinking that folks have agreed perhaps:
Step 1: Remove sand, fresh water rinse it repeatedly until no detritus remains and rinse water is clear. Leave the sand in a bucket (in a closet, or garage, any place it can sit and not irritate the home owners)
Step 2: Remove one rock each day and rinse like the sand, and once it is clean of algae replace it. The use of hydrogen peroxide (3% OTC bottle) poured upon algae roots, and then rinsed clean is also a suggestion, option for this step.
Repeat step 2 until all rocks have been through step 2.
Step 3: Drain/ clean the sump until it looks new.
Step 4: Clean skimmer like the sump.
These are the general plan, more or less. It can be completed by next week if the OP focuses time, maybe 2 or 3 weeks depending upon how many rocks are present.
The goby will miss the sand, a tupperware container placed in a corner with sand may improve that fishes happiness but it will confound achievment of results, slightly and require additional steps to remove spilled sand issues.
Unmentioned step. Raising Magnesium (epsom salts) to fight Bryopsis & algae growth? This could be implemented after the major clean if Bryopsis returns with a vengance.
Did I miss anything?
Edit: of course.
Wipe down the glass each day to see what you are working with, and hopefully see improvements along the way.
(Post pictures for our enjoyment too!
Also, no one has asked about the feeding situation in the tank. Without knowing that I would suggest reducing food rates to 1/2 the past rate. Algae loves food and fish can survive better with really light portions vs over fed pollution pits.
We are rooting for the Op’s success! Rah To it!
I am thinking that folks have agreed perhaps:
Step 1: Remove sand, fresh water rinse it repeatedly until no detritus remains and rinse water is clear. Leave the sand in a bucket (in a closet, or garage, any place it can sit and not irritate the home owners)
Step 2: Remove one rock each day and rinse like the sand, and once it is clean of algae replace it. The use of hydrogen peroxide (3% OTC bottle) poured upon algae roots, and then rinsed clean is also a suggestion, option for this step.
Repeat step 2 until all rocks have been through step 2.
Step 3: Drain/ clean the sump until it looks new.
Step 4: Clean skimmer like the sump.
These are the general plan, more or less. It can be completed by next week if the OP focuses time, maybe 2 or 3 weeks depending upon how many rocks are present.
The goby will miss the sand, a tupperware container placed in a corner with sand may improve that fishes happiness but it will confound achievment of results, slightly and require additional steps to remove spilled sand issues.
Unmentioned step. Raising Magnesium (epsom salts) to fight Bryopsis & algae growth? This could be implemented after the major clean if Bryopsis returns with a vengance.
Did I miss anything?
Edit: of course.
Wipe down the glass each day to see what you are working with, and hopefully see improvements along the way.
(Post pictures for our enjoyment too!
Also, no one has asked about the feeding situation in the tank. Without knowing that I would suggest reducing food rates to 1/2 the past rate. Algae loves food and fish can survive better with really light portions vs over fed pollution pits.
We are rooting for the Op’s success! Rah To it!
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Well said Kris
@Thales I've worked out my beef/ no more pounces all set
we should squash it and work some jobs/ benefit all
- the rip clean examples provided are one day's work, fastest fix option so the parents see that shining tank they want
In my opinion the parents and reefer can study the example set and we could guide it here for sure
Fixed by Sunday
@Thales I've worked out my beef/ no more pounces all set
we should squash it and work some jobs/ benefit all
- the rip clean examples provided are one day's work, fastest fix option so the parents see that shining tank they want
In my opinion the parents and reefer can study the example set and we could guide it here for sure
Fixed by Sunday
@Ro Bow
Be sure and study this fix with family:
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Be sure and study this fix with family:
Algae Identification
Any opinions on what type of algae this is growing on my rocks and sand bed?
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get rid of the rock that is on the far left that rock is way full of algae . I would just replace the rock with a new Marco rock or rock for ur lfs. the algae rock just leave it In the bucket till the algae dies off and then throw It in ur sump. Get rid of that algae on the sand. u need to add a few algae eating fish. I like the lawnmower Blennie.
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