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we take for granted the inside-angle knowledge of palytoxin, Vibrio infections, mycobacterium infections, unknown potential viral transfers and basic allergic inflammation reactions from being around reef tanks. That's what seasoned forum typers come to learn over the years
But I now see a standout risk where even experienced reef keepers may not know about the potential danger in vermitid pokes, or even handling of substrates where microtears or scrapes still cause a marked inflammation response, not just an annoyance
This information is NOT part of the initial reads in classroom reef setups. Student interactions in the reef tanks are limited and controlled by the teacher I'm aware, but not to the degree I see bacterial/inflammation/respiratory transfer issues mentioned in classroom builds over the years.
I have recently (four days ago issue still pending no updates) in online in live chats watched a reef tanker develop such a pronounced arm and leg infection from cleaning out a reef tank that for them not to have provided updates in our thread in four days is deeply seriously concerning and the reason for this thread.
I'm stating the person's reaction was so bad, its not a non-issue in reefing its a dedicated study we need especially for classroom setting reefs. I'm sure the biology teachers are in control of the settings, they're not being haphazard, so this is merely a discussion on the inherent but often unspoken risks in our hobby.
nobody who owns fanged and venom-able herps needs retraining on their elective risks, but reef tankers do. My child grew up around reefs but we at least used gloves. I did not consider breathing issues a risk, I drew the line at direct physical handling so we at least used gloves. Past that I was open to risks associated in the system we mainly looked at it; not a lot of deep inhaling off the top water and thankfully that worked out ok for my family.
If anyone has friends that don't know about nuances of reef tank safety: beyond palytoxin which was all the headlines in the last four years, let them know about simple handling of live rock can transmit very dangerous infections. its not rare, I have one friend on this site who has already posted three times about having to go into the dr for minor rock pokes and boil development, they're apparently more sensitive than normal.
*There are still palythoid owners posting who do not know about palytoxin risk
others report zero reaction to anything, including paly handling, that's kind of the go-to starting point we all start with till given a reason not to. Well I'm here to relay its something to watch out for, off the bat, linked with cycle training
among the things we teach new aquarists past ammonia control: fish disease preps and now human disease preps.
when people post pics of what their arm infections look like, it'll sink in. go search some recent ones out
we take for granted the inside-angle knowledge of palytoxin, Vibrio infections, mycobacterium infections, unknown potential viral transfers and basic allergic inflammation reactions from being around reef tanks. That's what seasoned forum typers come to learn over the years
But I now see a standout risk where even experienced reef keepers may not know about the potential danger in vermitid pokes, or even handling of substrates where microtears or scrapes still cause a marked inflammation response, not just an annoyance
This information is NOT part of the initial reads in classroom reef setups. Student interactions in the reef tanks are limited and controlled by the teacher I'm aware, but not to the degree I see bacterial/inflammation/respiratory transfer issues mentioned in classroom builds over the years.
I have recently (four days ago issue still pending no updates) in online in live chats watched a reef tanker develop such a pronounced arm and leg infection from cleaning out a reef tank that for them not to have provided updates in our thread in four days is deeply seriously concerning and the reason for this thread.
I'm stating the person's reaction was so bad, its not a non-issue in reefing its a dedicated study we need especially for classroom setting reefs. I'm sure the biology teachers are in control of the settings, they're not being haphazard, so this is merely a discussion on the inherent but often unspoken risks in our hobby.
nobody who owns fanged and venom-able herps needs retraining on their elective risks, but reef tankers do. My child grew up around reefs but we at least used gloves. I did not consider breathing issues a risk, I drew the line at direct physical handling so we at least used gloves. Past that I was open to risks associated in the system we mainly looked at it; not a lot of deep inhaling off the top water and thankfully that worked out ok for my family.
If anyone has friends that don't know about nuances of reef tank safety: beyond palytoxin which was all the headlines in the last four years, let them know about simple handling of live rock can transmit very dangerous infections. its not rare, I have one friend on this site who has already posted three times about having to go into the dr for minor rock pokes and boil development, they're apparently more sensitive than normal.
*There are still palythoid owners posting who do not know about palytoxin risk
others report zero reaction to anything, including paly handling, that's kind of the go-to starting point we all start with till given a reason not to. Well I'm here to relay its something to watch out for, off the bat, linked with cycle training
among the things we teach new aquarists past ammonia control: fish disease preps and now human disease preps.
when people post pics of what their arm infections look like, it'll sink in. go search some recent ones out
Bristleworm Sting and Chronic Joint Pain?
Hey all. A month or two ago I was clearing some hair algae out of my tank. I was being lazy and not using gloves, and I guess at some point I rested a finger against a bristleworm. Got a good 20+ bristles right into the joint of my ring finger. Without thinking, I just sort of wiped them off...
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