HELP!!! What happening to my torch?

[Nathan Nguyen]

What happening to my torch? The tissues falling off. How can i save it please?
Please see the video and image.

I tested the water last night:
Ca: 450
Mg: 1260 - 1290
Kh: 11.8 - 12.1
NO3: 4.4
PO4: .03 to .05

 

[ptrick21186]

Your alkalinity is pretty high. Is it always that high?

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

Your alkalinity is pretty high. Is it always that high?

No I think because i did water change 3 days ago. it's usually around 8 ppm

 

[ptrick21186]

No I think because i did water change 3 days ago. it's usually around 8 ppm

Ya that's probably your problem. Especially if it just jumped up like that suddenly.

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

Ya that's probably your problem. Especially if it just jumped up like that suddenly.

What should i do now please?

 

[ptrick21186]

I'd make a batch of fresh salt water and check the alkalinity of it. If it's good do a water change

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

I'd make a batch of fresh salt water and check the alkalinity of it. If it's good do a water change

Thank you!

 

[Dburr1014]

Get your mag up, alk down, po4 up.

For your high alk, nutrients should be higher.

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

Get your mag up, alk down, po4 up.

is my coral dying? can it still be saved?

 

[vetteguy53081]

What happening to my torch? The tissues falling off. How can i save it please?
Please see the video and image.

I tested the water last night:
Ca: 450
Mg: 1260 - 1290
Kh: 11.8 - 12.1
NO3: 4.4
PO4: .03 to .05

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This is not an alk issue although elevated. What you have is tissue recession and location is not helping. They are best at upper half of tank where they can receive proper light and water flow. Too little or too much flow will cause this.
Torch require typical parameters which you have IF accurate including:
Temperature around 78 degrees
Specific gravity of about 1.025
Ph of about 8.2
Calcium level of about 400 ppm
Mag 1300-1350

Torch coral benefits from moderate water flow. The polyps will remain shrunken if the flow is too fast because the polyps can be torn off in high current.
Torch coral is a photosynthetic coral which has a relationship with its inner zooxanthellae which lives inside its tissues that converts the light energy which feeds the coral. While its possible to keep a torch without any feeding at all, feeding is beneficial and I feed mine Mysis shrimp.
The best location for a torch coral is where it gets moderate to medium water flow and medium-intensity lighting.

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

is my coral dying? can it still be saved?

i will try what i can to save it

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

This is not an alk issue although elevated. What you have is tissue recession and location is not helping. They are best at upper half of tank where they can receive proper light and water flow. Too little or too much flow will cause this.
Torch require typical parameters which you have IF accurate including:
Temperature around 78 degrees
Specific gravity of about 1.025
Ph of about 8.2
Calcium level of about 400 ppm
Mag 1300-1350

Like most large polyp stony corals, torch coral benefits from moderate water flow. The polyps will remain retracted and under-inflated if the water current is too fast because the large flowing polyps are prone to rip and tear in high or ultra-high current environments.
Torch coral is a photosynthetic coral which has a relationship with symbiotic zooxanthellae which lives inside its tissues that converts the light energy into sugar and split their harvest and feed the coral. While its possible to keep a torch without any feeding at all, feeding is beneficial and I feed mine Mysis shrimp.
The best location for a torch coral is where it gets moderate to medium water flow and medium-intensity lighting.

thank you! is tissue recession a bad sign? can it still recover?

 

[KK's Reef]

Agree with other posters. Your mag is a bit on the low end. PO4 is low compared to your Alk.

If you can get your hands on some KFC dip, I hear it does wonders for euphyllia.

But for now, you can bring the alk down slowly with smaller water changes (although that will bring your PO4 and NO3 down also).

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

Agree with other posters. Your mag is a bit on the low end. PO4 is low compared to your Alk.

If you can get your hands on some KFC dip, I hear it does wonders for euphyllia.

But for now, you can bring the alk down slowly with smaller water changes (although that will bring your PO4 and NO3 down also).

honestly I didnt know what KFC dip was till you said. I dip my corals with Seachem Dip. I will do more research for the KFC dip

 

[ptrick21186]

Agree with other posters. Your mag is a bit on the low end. PO4 is low compared to your Alk.

If you can get your hands on some KFC dip, I hear it does wonders for euphyllia.

But for now, you can bring the alk down slowly with smaller water changes (although that will bring your PO4 and NO3 down also).

I prefer Popeyes over KFC personally.....

 

[eqbal9947]

Flow seems okay.
is that other torch newer? My first torches i killed from having too much flow and par.
After that, make sure nothing is aggravating it.
If all those look okay, try lugol dip or KFC dip.

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

I prefer Popeyes over KFC personally.....

bringing my torch to KFC

 

[Nathan Nguyen]

Flow seems okay.
is that other torch newer? My first torches i killed from having too much flow and par.
After that, make sure nothing is aggravating it.
If all those look okay, try lugol dip or KFC dip.

thank you! i will try with KFC dip

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

This is not an alk issue although elevated. What you have is tissue recession and location is not helping. They are best at upper half of tank where they can receive proper light and water flow. Too little or too much flow will cause this.
Torch require typical parameters which you have IF accurate including:
Temperature around 78 degrees
Specific gravity of about 1.025
Ph of about 8.2
Calcium level of about 400 ppm
Mag 1300-1350

Like most large polyp stony corals, torch coral benefits from moderate water flow. The polyps will remain retracted and under-inflated if the water current is too fast because the large flowing polyps are prone to rip and tear in high or ultra-high current environments.
Torch coral is a photosynthetic coral which has a relationship with symbiotic zooxanthellae which lives inside its tissues that converts the light energy into sugar and split their harvest and feed the coral. While its possible to keep a torch without any feeding at all, feeding is beneficial and I feed mine Mysis shrimp.
The best location for a torch coral is where it gets moderate to medium water flow and medium-intensity lighting.

This advice was copied directly from https://www.aquariumcreationsonline.net/GreenTorchCoral.html. <smh>

Feel free to follow the link for other info on your coral.

 

[Fishjayfonz]

Torches for me have been a great indicator of stable Alk. The jump from 8 to 12 dKh is substantial and your Mag being as low as it is prevents stability. Focus on bringing Mag up which will help keep Alk stable and let Alk drop naturally as its consumed. Getting it out of too much flow will help prevent more damage as well, but the water quality instability is what needs to be fixed first.