Help help help pepperment shrimp is dead

[bigkai]

ok i guss i was wrong star fish wasnt eating the pepperment shrimp. i bought 2 shrimps today i did a slow drip acclimation over about 3 hours got the water to temp. than i put the shrimp in the tank one shot stait down and hided behind a rock. the other stayed at the top and sat on a power head. the one that stayed on the power head is still alive the other, well its head just floated out about an hour ago and it was not a molt it still had meat in it. i will post some pics any one have any idias what could be getting them? i will post a list of every thang in the tank to date. please help this is driveing me crazy......oh:

 

[bigkai]

lIVESTOCK:
fish
-4 blue/green damsels
-1 purple firefish
-1 pajama cardinal
-1 bi color blenny
-1 engineer goby
-1 purple damsel
-1 mandarin goby
-2 black and white Ocellaris clownfish
inverts
-1 red brittle star
-1 giant white brittle
-1 serpent star
-About 50 blue leg hermit crabs
-1 fighting conch
-30 cerith snails
-20 astrea snails
-20 nassarius snails
-1 Tonga nassarius snail
-2 turbo snails
-5 nerite snails
-2 feather duster
-2 Emerald crabs
Soft coral
-dragon eye zoos
-green on green zoos
-green with orange center zoos
-yellow zoos
-pink palys
-brown/blue palys
-Green Polyping Toadstool Leather
-long Polyping Toadstool Leather
-white Polyping Toadstool Leather
-umbrella Polyping Toadstool Leather
-colt coral
-Green Finger Leather
-Yellow Fiji Finger Leather
-Devils Finger Leather
-Cabbage Leather
-white thin finger leather
-green tree leather
-yellow tree leather
-long Clove Polyps
-green white dot star polyps
-blue mushrooms
-orange/green ricordea
-green watermelon mushrooms
-red mushroom
-green harry mushroom
-blue pink green harry mushrooms
LPS
-orange plate coral
-Trumpet Coral
-sun coral
-pink tip frogspawn
-green hammer coral
-green favia
-cynarina coral
clams
-maxima clam
SPS
-Pavona cactus
-digitata
-montipora capricornis

 

[bigkai]

photos

 

[bigkai]

dead shrimp what on the list could be killing them? what would yall do? should i just give up on pepperment shrimp and just try a copperbanded butterfly?

 

[mjaustin22]

Im not sure what happened to your shrimp, 3hrs seems excessive. Ive never aclimated a shrimp longer than an hour and have never lost one.

 

[bigkai]

i just wanted to make sure it was done realy slow. i cought the serpent star eating a pepperment shrimp last night not sure if it was all ready dead or not i dont know. but i thank i done with shrimp i hate to buy stuff and it die in the in a day or 2. i guss im just going to try a copperbanded butterfly and i will just have to make sure i feed it a lot so it dont pick at the coral.

 

[Devonjevon]

Serpent star was the only thing on your list that raised my eyebrows. What color serpent? I hate them one green serpent ate all my clownfish.

 

[bigkai]

its a black and tan one here is a photo

 

[Rockadile]

Are you trying to kill aptasia? I wouldnt go cbb unless you know it is eating just my oppinion. try those nudibranchs IMO. as far as whats killing your shrimp, how big is the engineer gobby? I knwo they are reefsafe and all that but they can get pretty big and those peppermint shrimp could look like a tasty snack.

 

[skinz78]

Have you had any mysterious fish disappearances?

 

[josepy1]

usually with those they try and eat the aptasia and get a little over there head and try and eat the bigger ones who sting them to death. i had eight in my 90g to get rid of the aptasia and the eight did a very good job except for one piece, well long story short, no more peppermint shrimp, lol. It was either that or the too long of an acclimation. Usually i put them in the tank or sump in the bag to temp acclimate then slow to fast drip them for a half an hour, and have not lost one yet.

hope this helps. joe

 

[bigkai]

the engineer gobby is about 8 inchs long he's a good sized one. i thought the same thang at first that it might be him. their is not any one around here that has the nudibranchs tho and it would cost an arm and leg to get the shiped to me. i have not had any fish come up missing that i know of. but i have found out that the red brittle star eats snails it all the snails that was in my
refugium. and as for the copperbanded butterfly has any one had any good luck with these fish i prob going to start a new thread on them and see what every on has to say. im done with shrimp tho i fill bad that they die every time i buy some.