Foxface is twitching, breathing fast.

[Peepers]

So long stories short, my tank caught either flukes, ich or both. Set up an emergency qt and started dosing cupramine. Dosed one dose of prazipro as well. The spots on my foxface are all but gone but what I've noticed since is concerning. He still doesn't eat that well and recently he twitches his head to the side. Like shaking something off his face. His breathing looks fast too. His spots cleared up drastically. He does seem to have about half a cloudy eye on one eye too that showed up suddenly. I keep trying to feed him nori soaked in seachem garlic but he really doesn't eat it. He seems interested in it though. Any ideas? Cupramine 30 day mark is up in about two weeks. I plan on keeping them in qt for the full 76 day fallow period for dt. What should be my next course of action???

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Sorry for your troubles. Post a video under white light if possible. How long has it been since he has eaten? How is the ammonia level? This tends to be an issue with unestablished QT setups.

Copper is an appetite suppressant and Prazipro consumes oxygen, so this may be the cause of the heavy breathing and lack of appetite. Make sure the surface is highly agitated with either airstones or extra powerhead aimed at the surface.

Flukes doesn't kill right away so its usually best to avoid combining medications and treat ich with copper for 30 days and then move into deworming with praziquantel.

 

[Peepers]

Ammonia is good. Hob filter, air stone going

 

[Peepers]

Sorry for your troubles. Post a video under white light if possible. How long has it been since he has eaten? How is the ammonia level? This tends to be an issue with unestablished QT setups.

Copper is an appetite suppressant and Prazipro consumes oxygen, so this may be the cause of the heavy breathing and lack of appetite. Make sure the surface is highly agitated with either airstones or extra powerhead aimed at the surface.

Flukes doesn't kill right away so its usually best to avoid combining medications and treat ich with copper for 30 days and then move into deworming with praziquantel.

I don't know why video is black.

 

[Peepers]

Sorry for your troubles. Post a video under white light if possible. How long has it been since he has eaten? How is the ammonia level? This tends to be an issue with unestablished QT setups.

Copper is an appetite suppressant and Prazipro consumes oxygen, so this may be the cause of the heavy breathing and lack of appetite. Make sure the surface is highly agitated with either airstones or extra powerhead aimed at the surface.

Flukes doesn't kill right away so its usually best to avoid combining medications and treat ich with copper for 30 days and then move into deworming with praziquantel.

 

[Peepers]

Sorry for your troubles. Post a video under white light if possible. How long has it been since he has eaten? How is the ammonia level? This tends to be an issue with unestablished QT setups.

Copper is an appetite suppressant and Prazipro consumes oxygen, so this may be the cause of the heavy breathing and lack of appetite. Make sure the surface is highly agitated with either airstones or extra powerhead aimed at the surface.

Flukes doesn't kill right away so its usually best to avoid combining medications and treat ich with copper for 30 days and then move into deworming with praziquantel.

 

[Peepers]

Also don't quite understand why my clown has the tiny white dots. Have been in cupramine for over 2 weeks

 

[threebuoys]

what other fish are in the tank with the foxface and do any show symptoms?

 

[Peepers]

what other fish are in the tank with the foxface and do any show symptoms?

One of my clowns have Popeye a little, but other than that most fish are looking ok. You can tell they hate being in qt. Only two act normal. Lol. But as far as fish in qt there is a foxface, two clowns, a tomani tang, a coral beauty, a neon dottyback, a blue devil and a yellow watchman goby.

 

[LAReefer4Life]

What test kit are you using to test the copper levels?

Sorry but the photos aren't great. Taking picture under white lighting would be much better to properly help diagnose. I am not sure what spots are on the clown vs. glass.

Flukes can cause cloudy eyes, is it just one eye or both?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I don't know why video is black.

I was able to download the video, but all I could see was the foxface is breathing way too fast, close to the point of respiratory collapse. I can’t tell you why though; gill disease and water quality issues or anemia. Aerate the tank well and perhaps double check your ammonia and copper tests with your LFS?
Jay

 

[Peepers]

I was able to download the video, but all I could see was the foxface is breathing way too fast, close to the point of respiratory collapse. I can’t tell you why though; gill disease and water quality issues or anemia. Aerate the tank well and perhaps double check your ammonia and copper tests with your LFS?
Jay

My cupramine has been .043 to .050 steady on a Hanna checker. My seachem ammonia badge was barely under alert but after water check is completely in safe range. Yeah, I don't understand, he is looking so much better but seems to be stressed beyond belief. Have to say though, he acted so bad the first week I checked him four times to make sure he's alive. He pecked a couple times at his nori today. He did eat some of the live brine we got them last week

 

[Jay Hemdal]

My cupramine has been .043 to .050 steady on a Hanna checker. My seachem ammonia badge was barely under alert but after water check is completely in safe range. Yeah, I don't understand, he is looking so much better but seems to be stressed beyond belief. Have to say though, he acted so bad the first week I checked him four times to make sure he's alive. He pecked a couple times at his nori today. He did eat some of the live brine we got them last week

Sorry - there just aren't any hints here that would lead me in one direction or another regarding what is going on with it.

Jay

 

[Peepers]

Sorry - there just aren't any hints here that would lead me in one direction or another regarding what is going on with it.

Jay

So I had noticed before my water change water was pretty cloudy. Is it possible it's a bacterial infection? Is there something I could dose along with cupramine that will help and not interact with the copper???

 

[Jay Hemdal]

So I had noticed before my water change water was pretty cloudy. Is it possible it's a bacterial infection? Is there something I could dose along with cupramine that will help and not interact with the copper???

Cloudy water isn't a symptom for pathogenic bacteria, but it is a sign of water quality issues! What happens is that the bacteria grows in the water column, and it consumes oxygen to live, lowering the level and causing the fish to breath fast. However, all fish would likely be affected, and these bacteria need a source of food, usually uneaten fish food. Also, high ammonia often goes hand in hand with that (thus my suggestion to have the ammonia tested by another method in case your badge is working).

Jay

 

[Peepers]

Cloudy water isn't a symptom for pathogenic bacteria, but it is a sign of water quality issues! What happens is that the bacteria grows in the water column, and it consumes oxygen to live, lowering the level and causing the fish to breath fast. However, all fish would likely be affected, and these bacteria need a source of food, usually uneaten fish food. Also, high ammonia often goes hand in hand with that (thus my suggestion to have the ammonia tested by another method in case your badge is working).

Jay

So my domino clownfish now has theses spots on him. I find it hard to believe it's ich since they've been in copper. It almost looks like some of the white spots are actually like little hairs that move in current. Is this flukes???

 

[Jay Hemdal]

So my domino clownfish now has theses spots on him. I find it hard to believe it's ich since they've been in copper. It almost looks like some of the white spots are actually like little hairs that move in current. Is this flukes???

Those are mucus plugs, or mucus plugs mixed with some ich. Picture just isn't good enough to say for certain. If you see spots on the soft parts of the fins, that is more likely ich, mucus plugs generally arise from the fish's body. Mucus plugs can sometimes result from copper treatments, though it isn't that common in clownfish, more often seen in tangs. Dark colored clowns show them more though....

Jay

 

[Peepers]

Cloudy water isn't a symptom for pathogenic bacteria, but it is a sign of water quality issues! What happens is that the bacteria grows in the water column, and it consumes oxygen to live, lowering the level and causing the fish to breath fast. However, all fish would likely be affected, and these bacteria need a source of food, usually uneaten fish food. Also, high ammonia often goes hand in hand with that (thus my suggestion to have the ammonia tested by another method in case your badge is working).

Jay

Foxface eye this morning.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Foxface eye this morning.

Pictures taken under blue light are tough to interpret.

Without going back to read all the posts, I can't tell, have you tried a 5 minute FW dip on this fish? (Remember they have venomous spines).

Jay

 

[Peepers]

Pictures taken under blue light are tough to interpret.

Without going back to read all the posts, I can't tell, have you tried a 5 minute FW dip on this fish? (Remember they have venomous spines).

Jay

I have not yet. Will a foxface fair well with a freshwater dip?