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I understand it to be weeklySame here. Didn’t understand if the dosing after lights out was a daily dosing regimen or a weekly one.
sincerely,
David
You dose every day and SLOWLY ramp up weekly.I've been battling dinos for a year and would like to give this a try. I'm not following the instructions clearly. Is it recommended to dose "1ml per 100L" per day or per week? When should I increase the amount?
Per article is 1ml per day and increase 1ml perI've been battling dinos for a year and would like to give this a try. I'm not following the instructions clearly. Is it recommended to dose "1ml per 100L" per day or per week? When should I increase the amount?
7 of them young aquaria lees than 1 year ageHow old were the 11 treated aquaria?
Thank you for sharing this study. The article was easily understood and fascinating. I have a few questions.
How old were the 11 treated aquaria?
Was the bloom organism identity confirmed by microscopy in each of the 11 systems?
Does every dinoflagellate species bloom disappear with carbon dosing at roughly the same rate?
Did the bloom in every aquarium with the same species of dinoflagellate disappear at roughly the same rate?
Which aquaria developed visible cyanobacteria growth?
Thank you,
Dan
Sounds like Tropic Marins bacto-balance would work nicely, as it is a carbon dosing solution that adds No3 and Po4, all in one addition.Per article is 1ml per day and increase 1ml per
week for more persistent species.
Week 1: 1ml per day
Week 2: 2ml per day
Week 3: 3ml per day
not exceeding the 3ml dose
the only thing I may be missing is if nutrients need to be detectable at all times, theoretical you can dose and increase bacteria even without the presence of N and P although imo this could lead to coral bleaching if nutrients remain undetectable for a long period of time.
edit: just re read, nutrient need to stay detectable at all times as suspected, therefore if you have low nutrients you may need to dose nitrates and phosphates first and then add organic carbon to the system, keeping a close eye on your nutrients during treatment to avoid them from bottoming out. If they do heterotrophic bacteria won’t be able to outcompete the dinoflagellates as they will become limited in nutrients to grow and dinoflagellates may come back stronger.
this method goes in line with using mb7 and waste away as product to aid the fight in dinoflagellates as the products contain heterotrophic bacteria with the addition important nutrients such as Doc and phosphates
It also goes in line with live phytoplankton dosing that have worked for so many in the past as live phytoplankton dosing will increase Doc and inorganic nutrients as a result.
Thank you for the additional information.7 of them young aquaria lees than 1 year age
Dinos were not identified on the microscope, only visual identification. Regression of dinos was not equally in different cases, buy I think it depends on other factors, more than on species. Non of the aquaria developed cyano, but two of them developed hair algae. As we all know, frequently, when a dominant species is receding, it is swapped by a new one, as the biological niche is available
The only issue I see with bacto balance is that it adds organic nutrients that from the experiment results leads me to think that might favour dinoflagellates, heterotrophic bacteria seems to favour inorganic nutrient over organic nutrients as a source of energy.Sounds like Tropic Marins bacto-balance would work nicely, as it is a carbon dosing solution that adds No3 and Po4, all in one addition.
Was the hair algae due to heterotrophic bacteria limitations? It’s normally observed rapid growth of pest algaes wend this bacteria becomes limited at the nutrient level, it stops being able to recycle ammonia leaving the GHA as a dominant ammonia consumption organisms in a system.7 of them young aquaria lees than 1 year age
Dinos were not identified on the microscope, only visual identification. Regression of dinos was not equally in different cases, buy I think it depends on other factors, more than on species. Non of the aquaria developed cyano, but two of them developed hair algae. As we all know, frequently, when a dominant species is receding, it is swapped by a new one, as the biological niche is available