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No, that's not big enough for your tank. Those ratings are for a completely different application than dinos. It should be plumbed from the tank back to the tank (not from the sump/return) with a dedicated pump, in your case pumping about 200-600 gph. I tend to try to hit in the middle...say 350-400 gph for you.


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Very clean set up! What pump are you feeding your UV with?
 

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No, that's not big enough for your tank. Those ratings are for a completely different application than dinos. It should be plumbed from the tank back to the tank (not from the sump/return) with a dedicated pump, in your case pumping about 200-600 gph. I tend to try to hit in the middle...say 350-400 gph for you.


A picture of my UV and plumbing.
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+1 to this. Unlike algae or bacteria, dinoflagellates have body armor. Literally a shell that offers some protection.

The standard is 1 watt per 3 gallons for killing these protists. The above photo is exactly how I did mine. It is ugly, but effective and only temporary.

Do note: I believe you have amphidinium in this mix and they don't release into the water column at night. So the UV will not effect them. Just fyi.
 
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Thanks everyone for all the help and guidance. I have had reef tanks for many years but this is the first I have dealt with Dinoflagellates.
 
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+1 to this. Unlike algae or bacteria, dinoflagellates have body armor. Literally a shell that offers some protection.

The standard is 1 watt per 3 gallons for killing these protists. The above photo is exactly how I did mine. It is ugly, but effective and only temporary.

Do note: I believe you have amphidinium in this mix and they don't release into the water column at night. So the UV will not effect them. Just fyi.
Would you recommend a 80watt pentair or would another size/name brand be better suited?
 

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Would you recommend a 80watt pentair or would another size/name brand be better suited?
That will certainly do the job. I've owned Aqua UV and the old Lifegard standing units. Of the two, I prefer Aqua UV.

No personal experience with Pentair, but they seem legitimate. Some here are really keen on the Lifegard Promax to save space lengthwise. Worth checking out. Might be overkill for temporary use.
 
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That will certainly do the job. I've owned Aqua UV and the old Lifegard standing units. Of the two, I prefer Aqua UV.

No personal experience with Pentair, but they seem legitimate. Some here are really keen on the Lifegard Promax to save space lengthwise. Worth checking out. Might be overkill for temporary use.
I pulled the trigger on a 90watt lifegard promax. I need to get the plumbing components nailed down before it arrives. So with that being said I was looking at the Eheim CompactOn 3000. it has a 750gph rating which with head pressure it should get the flow around 600 and I can dial it down if necessary. Also it doesn’t appear that it will be too obtrusive in my tank. Until my UV arrives I am going to dose to get my Nitrates and phosphates up using Neonitro and Neophos then do the blackout period with dosing. I kinda think the Dino’s may be in decline but I need to suck them up to determine how fast they reappear.
 

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I pulled the trigger on a 90watt lifegard promax. I need to get the plumbing components nailed down before it arrives. So with that being said I was looking at the Eheim CompactOn 3000. it has a 750gph rating which with head pressure it should get the flow around 600 and I can dial it down if necessary. Also it doesn’t appear that it will be too obtrusive in my tank. Until my UV arrives I am going to dose to get my Nitrates and phosphates up using Neonitro and Neophos then do the blackout period with dosing. I kinda think the Dino’s may be in decline but I need to suck them up to determine how fast they reappear.
I am good with all that. Typically recommend slow flow through the UV, but at 90 watts you can bump it up. Let me know how you like the Promax as my old style Lifegard is annoying to deploy. Promax looks built like a tank.
 

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Either brand is a large increase from 40W. The 80W Pentair does 30 mJ/cm2 at 45 gpm and the 90W Promax does it at 47 gpm. Imo people focus too much on the gallon rating on a UV (cost me some fish when I bought my first 10 years ago) as opposed to the actual performance specs. It's not something that's commonly taught in the hobby though.
 
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Either brand is a large increase from 40W. The 80W Pentair does 30 mJ/cm2 at 45 gpm and the 90W Promax does it at 47 gpm. Imo people focus too much on the gallon rating on a UV (cost me some fish when I bought my first 10 years ago) as opposed to the actual performance specs. It's not something that's commonly taught in the hobby though.
 
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Either brand is a large increase from 40W. The 80W Pentair does 30 mJ/cm2 at 45 gpm and the 90W Promax does it at 47 gpm. Imo people focus too much on the gallon rating on a UV (cost me some fish when I bought my first 10 years ago) as opposed to the actual performance specs. It's not something that's commonly taught in the hobby though.
So do you think the eheim pumping at 750gph is to slow then? Seams to me that slower is better for the most part, right?
 

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Either brand is a large increase from 40W. The 80W Pentair does 30 mJ/cm2 at 45 gpm and the 90W Promax does it at 47 gpm. Imo people focus too much on the gallon rating on a UV (cost me some fish when I bought my first 10 years ago) as opposed to the actual performance specs. It's not something that's commonly taught in the hobby though.
There is certainly going to be a trade off between performance (which you have done some diligence on) and form factor. In my case, cabinet space is a constraint that made the ProMax appealing. But you bring up a good point. Most aquarium pests don't require the contact time that most dinoflagellates do.

While both are going to work, isn't more flow to get the same contact time with the ProMax a win? I am two IPAs in so will respond tomorrow morning :).
 
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Not sure what I did there... lol.
I am good with all that. Typically recommend slow flow through the UV, but at 90 watts you can bump it up. Let me know how you like the Promax as my old style Lifegard is annoying to deploy. Promax looks built like a tank.
will do! It has a 3” inlet/outlet. Would reducing to 1” be adequate? I believe it would allow for a higher flow once I get the Dino’s beat.
 

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Not sure what I did there... lol.

will do! It has a 3” inlet/outlet. Would reducing to 1” be adequate? I believe it would allow for a higher flow once I get the Dino’s beat.
Yes, 1" is perfectly adequate. The 3" fitting is for pond installs I believe.
 
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Ok. Thanks for the info! I started dosing Neophos and Neonitro ( half dose) this morning. I want to get my nutrients up to near acceptable levels before I do the blackout period. Do you think dosing dr Tim’s refresh along with the No3/p04 would be beneficial? Or should I wait until I start the treatment.
 

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Ok. Thanks for the info! I started dosing Neophos and Neonitro ( half dose) this morning. I want to get my nutrients up to near acceptable levels before I do the blackout period. Do you think dosing dr Tim’s refresh along with the No3/p04 would be beneficial? Or should I wait until I start the treatment.
I would get the nutrients up before dosing bacteria. I use Microbacter 7 to manage (lower) nutrients in my systems to good effect.
 

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There is certainly going to be a trade off between performance (which you have done some diligence on) and form factor. In my case, cabinet space is a constraint that made the ProMax appealing. But you bring up a good point. Most aquarium pests don't require the contact time that most dinoflagellates do.

While both are going to work, isn't more flow to get the same contact time with the ProMax a win? I am two IPAs in so will respond tomorrow morning :).

Yeah when it comes to what fits, hey you do what you can. Yes the ProMax should be marginally stronger. They are pretty comparable units!
 
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