Burning Co2 scrubber media super fast

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With my tank full of SPS, I’m not even sure if higher pH is making a difference. I think that 7.9 is more than fine - I too chase pH cause that’s the latest trend. We might poke ourselves laughing hysterically in a few years looking back at this thread?

My SPS actually grew the fastest in the last 2wks with depleted media!!! Secret ingredient? STOP look at your tank daily. I was away on vacation for 2 1/2 weeks — they grew way faster, trust me! lol
Lol there is some truth to this. Overall my tank looks happier with higher ph, that's my main reason. I have noticed slightly faster growth rates since starting Co2 scrubbing. But yes, not watching daily helps a lot too. Haha.
 

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Lol there is some truth to this. Overall my tank looks happier with higher ph, that's my main reason. I have noticed slightly faster growth rates since starting Co2 scrubbing. But yes, not watching daily helps a lot too. Haha.
Purely a placebo effect on my part but honestly I couldn’t tell the difference in my tank. I got lazy and let the media get depleted and nothing really changed. With the new build, I’m going to keep it simple and neglect pH completely.

Good luck with your chase!
 
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Purely a placebo effect on my part but honestly I couldn’t tell the difference in my tank. I got lazy and let the media get depleted and nothing really changed. With the new build, I’m going to keep it simple and neglect pH completely.

Good luck with your chase!
If I don't scrub or use an outside line, my tank dips to 7.5 frequently. I've seen 7.4 a few times. That's pretty low, chasing isn't really the intent.
 

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Something is off here — I doubt that CO2 scrubbing can go from 7.5 to 8.2+, it’s also logarithmic right? I’ve only seen a 0.2 delta in pH increase with CO2 scrubbing. Is your pH probe correct? I don’t trust mine. Thoughts?
 
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Something is off here — I doubt that CO2 scrubbing can go from 7.5 to 8.2+, it’s also logarithmic right? I’ve only seen a 0.2 delta in pH increase with CO2 scrubbing. Is your pH probe correct? I don’t trust mine. Thoughts?
I've gotten 0.3 delta from scrubbing when fresh.

7.5 would be cases when the family is downstairs which we do a lot. When they are upstairs mostly it'll bottom at 7.9.

I have tested ph with different tests and recently bought calibration fluid for the probe. Still need to calibrate it. However, tests and the probe have been spot on. I also have an alkatronic bit the ph in there always reads 0.3 lower than actual.
 

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For me only two things have changed over the last month. Relative humidity and temperatures. Would it be fair to assume that if the humidity isn't 100% responsible for the exhaustion that possibly drawing 96 degrees through the media could be the culprit? Or maybe the mix of both creates a perfect storm for rapid depletion? I guess it doesn't really matter as there's not a thing I can do about either.
 

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If I don't scrub or use an outside line, my tank dips to 7.5 frequently. I've seen 7.4 a few times. That's pretty low, chasing isn't really the intent.
Hmmm - this would be odd in my opinion. Are you absolutely sure your pH meter is correct? I mean - I routinely ran the tank in my build thread - and the pH fluctuated from 7.9 to 8.1 or so. Rarely (very) down to 7.8 - that usually signaled a problem. However, I was thinking about your issue - what is your alkalinity? Do you think it might help to change your dosing (if you're doing any) to a Kalkwasser method? Also There are different media for CO2 scrubbers that can be used besides CA hydroxide.

Hope I'm not adding more for you to do/think about lol. I seriously would try drying your media (enough, not too much) and taking air from outside. I am not sure you mentioned the size of your tank - but is the size of your scrubber adequate for your tank? (I'm sure it is - just mentioned for completeness)
 

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PS - I'm assuming your pH does not drop to 7.5 when the scrubber is running?
 
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Hmmm - this would be odd in my opinion. Are you absolutely sure your pH meter is correct? I mean - I routinely ran the tank in my build thread - and the pH fluctuated from 7.9 to 8.1 or so. Rarely (very) down to 7.8 - that usually signaled a problem. However, I was thinking about your issue - what is your alkalinity? Do you think it might help to change your dosing (if you're doing any) to a Kalkwasser method? Also There are different media for CO2 scrubbers that can be used besides CA hydroxide.

Hope I'm not adding more for you to do/think about lol. I seriously would try drying your media (enough, not too much) and taking air from outside. I am not sure you mentioned the size of your tank - but is the size of your scrubber adequate for your tank? (I'm sure it is - just mentioned for completeness)
I do dose kalkwasser lol. Alk is around 8.5. I will try drying the incoming air from both the skimmer and the outside, I'll see if either works. Tang is 233g display / 265g total
 

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I do dose kalkwasser lol. Alk is around 8.5. I will try drying the incoming air from both the skimmer and the outside, I'll see if either works. Tang is 233g display / 265g total
I would seriously make absolutely sure that your pH measure is correct. But - yes - please do keep everyone updated - as that is probably the most important - i.e. was the diagnosis/advice correct (or not)
 

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Changed June 26th

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Blue = outside air line
Red = skimmer to collection cup
Yellow = collection cup to scrubber
Green = scrubber to skimmer intake

Skimmer has a locker with multiple overflow protection
I see your problem. You aren’t recirculating anything with this setup. All the CO2 depleted air is escaping the skimmer lid. Your yellow line needs to go directly to the top of the skimmer, not the separate collection cup. In addition, you can tape of some or all of the vent holes on your skimmer lid to make most efficient.

Edit: I see now that collection cup is a trap, not where you collect skimmate. Still, most of your good air for recirculation is escaping through the vent holes on top of your skimmer. Electrical tape should do it.

Edit 2: Just ignore me and I’ll let myself out. Didn’t read second page of responses…
 
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I see your problem. You aren’t recirculating anything with this setup. All the CO2 depleted air is escaping the skimmer lid. Your yellow line needs to go directly to the top of the skimmer, not the separate collection cup. In addition, you can tape of some or all of the vent holes on your skimmer lid to make most efficient.
Hmmm please explain more. The holes on the top of the lid ARE capped and hot glue sealed.
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The yellow line is goes from the moisture collection cup to the intake side of the Co2 scrubber.
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The green line goes to the intake of the skimmer and is co2 free.


But, maybe this is wrong?? I followed fish of hex on YouTube and how he did it.
 

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Hmmm please explain more. The holes on the top of the lid ARE capped and hot glue sealed.
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The yellow line is goes from the moisture collection cup to the intake side of the Co2 scrubber.
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The green line goes to the intake of the skimmer and is co2 free.


But, maybe this is wrong?? I followed fish of hex on YouTube and how he did it.
Read my post edits lol.
 

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I'll check it again but I'm pretty sure it's sealed
Do you have a large bio load in your tank ie, large number of tangs, large fish load? If you do then amount of media relative to your dissolved CO2 levels in your reef may be too low, hence the media being used up quicker than expected. Do you have an algae scrubber or refugium with algae on your system? May help to raise your pH without burning through expensive media. Kinda like some reefers who will run calcium reactor output through algae device to reduce CO2 levels and raise pH. Are you storing the media in an airtight container? If not the media will be used up before you put it in the reactor, and it may not change color as expected. Just spitballing now… seems you’ve done everything else. Could get a CO2 meter and find out how high CO2 level is in your basement. If higher than outside air then you have an answer.
 

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