Any Herp types wanna try for an ID?

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SW Missouri, Ozarks... saw this on my driveway this evening. Can't place it. Any ideas? Sorry for the bad photo :D

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Thats a tough one....nothing jumping out at me. Almost looks like a juvenile rat snake....almost lol. Whatever it is I would like you to catch and ship to me.....good looking snake :)
 
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Found a local herp group on FB, they're saying juvenile black rat snake. Quite a pretty specimen, anyway.

Got lots of black rat snakes around, guess I just haven't seen any of their young. He's more than welcome. We've got chickens, which means we're feeding corn, which draws in the mice. All the mouse eaters are welcome, as long as they stay out of my laying boxes! Once they figure out there's eggs in there, you have to kill 'em. Just moving them doesn't work, they'll come right back.
 

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Found a local herp group on FB, they're saying juvenile black rat snake. Quite a pretty specimen, anyway.

Got lots of black rat snakes around, guess I just haven't seen any of their young. He's more than welcome. We've got chickens, which means we're feeding corn, which draws in the mice. All the mouse eaters are welcome, as long as they stay out of my laying boxes! Once they figure out there's eggs in there, you have to kill 'em. Just moving them doesn't work, they'll come right back.
I have actually been looking to buy a juvenile eastern black rat for a long time....they are hard to find. I have ran into only a couple out in the woods here in Ohio over the years. The eastern black rats look a little different than that pic which is why I wasn't sure. Nice find though!
 

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