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Folks, my plan is to add 3 kind of Anthias in a 2 ft tank; i'm thinking in order of introduction, should they be added in the following sequential order:
  1. PICTILIS ANTHIAS
  2. RANDALL ANTHIAS
  3. BICOLOUR ANTHIAS
Thinking Bicolour Anthias as the last add because from LiveAquaria, they seem to be the most aggressive one compared to the first two (Peaceful).

Any thoughts will be much appreciated.

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Randall is the smallest, and least aggressive. Pictillis is the largest and the next least aggressive. Bicolor in the middle size-wise, but the most aggressive (though not lyretail aggressive). Pictillis far to large and active for a 2 ft tank though.
 
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Randall is the smallest, and least aggressive. Pictillis is the largest and the next least aggressive. Bicolor in the middle size-wise, but the most aggressive (though not lyretail aggressive). Pictillis far to large and active for a 2 ft tank though.

I was told Randall male has the best coloration, in comparison to Randall female?

Should I be adding singular or a pair of Randall?
 

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I was told Randall male has the best coloration, in comparison to Randall female?

Should I be adding singular or a pair of Randall?

Maybe. The pictures you see of the males are mostly when 'flashing' in the presence of females. None of mine ever looked anything like the pictures - mainly lacking the magenta stripes - even with females. I'd actually suggest getting a few females and letting the dominant one turn male.
 
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I got a Bi-color and he is pretty but mean. I got a cariberry and dispar that he picked on. I ended up getting 2 more anthias to spread out the aggression and its working out so far. I think getting all females is a good idea but sometimes when they turn male in captivity they don't allways change color all the way. If you get a male it will probably come fully colored
 
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I'd actually suggest getting a few females and letting the dominant one turn male.

So I get this correct with fish, in this case Anthias .. when a female becomes male .. that is it, right? it can't turn back to female?

And normally when introducing 2 or 3 Randalls (all females), there's doomed to be 1 to become male? Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

I think getting all females is a good idea but sometimes when they turn male in captivity they don't always change color all the way. If you get a male it will probably come fully colored

Ok so now I just read your post and getting a little confused ... particularly this statement here "If you get a male it will probably come fully colored" .. but then the male would have turned from a female, right? be that in the ocean or breeder's aquarium? or you're saying get the male, who would've born as male his whole life ... ?
 
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So I get this correct with fish, in this case Anthias .. when a female becomes male .. that is it, right? it can't turn back to female?

And normally when introducing 2 or 3 Randalls (all females), there's doomed to be 1 to become male? Please do correct me if I'm wrong.



Ok so now I just read your post and getting a little confused ... particularly this statement here "If you get a male it will probably come fully colored" .. but then the male would have turned from a female, right? be that in the ocean or breeder's aquarium? or you're saying get the male, who would've born as male his whole life ... ?


They are hermaphrodites, born female, dominant turns male, kinda like clowns but opposite.
I have to say also if it's a 2' tank it's too small for anthia groups
 

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It is true that a female changing to male in captivity may not become as colorful as one collected from the ocean. It is also true that males collected from the ocean with 'full' coloration will often fade in captivity. I suspect both are a function of the foods we use and the lack of the same social structures found in the wild.
 
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