75g 9 Y/O Tank I Started At Age 13

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I do not know how to write this post in a condensed fashion, I am going to try my best to keep to the relevant information but I hope any readers do not mind a bit of context for this tank as I think it helps explain it's current state. If you do mind, at the end of this post is the all the relevant information you are probably looking for.

When I was a small child as many of you did I kept freshwater fish, but soon got bored by the simplicity of it all. I wanted a challenge and for my 13th birthday, I got a 75-gallon marine aquarium. I know some of you are already cringing reading that, but know that I also have been aware for many years what a jump going from 10-gallon freshwater tanks to 75 gallons of saltwater entailed. It was a mistake no two ways around it, but until now when I am currently 22, I have been working on that very same tank. That is nine years of work I have put into this tank, the majority of which was done as a child with the help of birthday presents, allowances and summer jobs. So you may be thinking after nine years of work, it is not a very good aquarium. Sure I was young working on it, but I fear I should have left this phase of my tank years ago. Some mistakes are beginners that I have gotten over, but others feel like a fundamental misunderstanding of what I am doing on my part. The main issue I have is community, or lack thereof as a young aquarist. I made a post about this little over six months ago and met some lovely people on here, but would love to meet more. The problem I have with community I suppose is the in-person factor. I have been a ghost on this website for years but only started interacting as an adult, and maybe this doesn't make sense but sometimes it feels like no matter how many articles I read, no matter how many questions I get answered, no matter how much I research, that I still can't break a certain knowledge ceiling. This website helps tremendously with this and I think everyone here fosters a lovely community spirit, it is just hard to make those relationships in real life. For nine years I have lurked at every LFS in Alberta my province, joined my local aquarium society and talked to as many people in the hobby as possible. Now this may partially be the tragedy of living in a landlocked province (shoutout to my landlocked aquarists lol) but I continually find I am one of the only people in the saltwater field in my area, and definitely the only one in my age range. Everyone I meet is freshwater! And I love freshwater but as for knowing a single person in my area who owns a saltwater tank? They seemingly do not exist. LFS owners are good but only so much, I am close with the two main saltwater ppl in my city and they are great but they are not friends, they sell you on stuff you do not need all the time. What would be great is somebody to compare tanks with, someone to go to the LFS store with and talk tanks with. I love this hobby very much and intend to keep in it, I just include this part as a continuation of my thoughts on loneliness and this hobby. It can be very solitary which is part of the appeal, but it is also a hobby that takes extreme intelligence and resourcefulness among other things, so finding other people who walk that path is something I think should be a bigger part of the hobby. Anyways, my lonely butt aside I am going to follow this up with a short history of the tank and its inhabitants, followed by the current setup of gear, levels and inhabitants.

At age 13 I got the tank, I have no memory of what brand just that it was on sale, 75 gallons, big as hell, and sturdy enough to have made it this far without issue. For modifications, I first had one of those siphon overflow boxes which was alright but as I got tired of spitting saltwater every once in a while I eventually got a drilled-in overflow box which using a diamond drill tip was the most anxiety-inducing thing I have ever done to the tank. That all pipes down to a 25-gallon sump, now more along the lines of 30-50 though I do not remember an exact number, just that this one was large enough to fit both a skimmer and a refugium. Down in the refugium, I do have a light for down there but I have not run it in years, the single ball of chaeto I bought years ago continues to grow unimpeded with or without the lights so I go without for algae control. Then there is the protein skimmer, currently an Aquavitro but I have gone through a couple. I genuinely think I did not understand the first couple, but water level control was also more of a struggle back then so tuning was also a mess. Now the aquavitro does a solid job for me while fitting in the sump, and also with it are a Trident pump and top-off system connected to a garbage pale of water (new from Home Depot, plastic not metal). In the tank itself early on I was turned onto using reptile temperature control devices with my heaters, and have continued to do that though now I use an inkbird which I do not believe is made specifically for any type of pet. Either way, plugging my heaters into it allows for control of them, saves the batteries, and most importantly it texts me if the heat goes low, which happened once before that system. Other than that for inhabitants I have housed a lot of creatures, most of which have failed miserably. I keep it within the size of the tank, but other than what I have in the tank now the only critters I have successfully taken care of, IE they have lived out their lives in captivity and not died within six months of purchasing, is Foxface rabbitfish, sea hares and urchins, Wrasse, Gobies, Clowns, Blennies, Cardinals, Dartfish and once a Hawkfish. A lot of things outside of that mainly Dragonets and Angels I have never been able to successfully care for. What about coral you may be asking? Well honestly everything I did before I bought my current lights was just flushing money down the toilet, but ever since I have gotten nice lights I still haven't been able to keep a dang thing alive. Well alright, I do have a starburst coral spread out over a clay pot I bought a few years ago, my largest piece by far, and a neon green mushroom coral that has split once. Other than that, algae kills every coral I have. I have little idea how to tune these lights, or what is best for my coral, and I generally oscillate monthly between 6-hour days of low kelvin blue lighting to then higher kelvin white lighting, but every time I add any white light the GHA goes crazy. This is probably all wrong, I just have had trouble getting solid answers on what is best for my tank. I have had the power go out, heaters die, fish jump out, been zapped by the tank, had ich, cyano, GHA, and several other pests and problems. Killed all my livestock in a day from some bogus bacterial product, just about quit the hobby several times. I keep on trucking but this can be a very demoralizing hobby at times.

The Stock:
-Two Ocealaris Clownfish
-One Tailspot Blenny
-Two Bangaii Cardinals
-Two Cleaner Shrimp
-Three Hermit Crabs
-A Tube Worm
-The Starburst Coral on Pot
-The Green Mushroom on the purple rock

The Equipment:
-The nicer lights I was talking about are 2X Radion XR15w G5 Pro's
-Reefwave Wave Bar
-Eshops 50g Sump
-Aquavitro Skimmer
-Neptune Pump
-Top Off System
-Grounding System
-Inkbird Heating Control System
-3X Marineland Heaters

The Levels:
-PH 8.15
-Nitrites 0.1
-Nitrates 5mg
-Ammonia 0.2
-Alkalinity 10.7 DKH
-Phosphates 0.02
-Calcium 500 ppm
-Magnesium 800 ppm

Photos attached, please let me know what you think. Is this terrible for someone as young as I? Have I spent way too long and gotten not nearly far enough? Do you want to talk tanks, have suggestions or ideas, or want to tell me about something I am missing? Please do in the comments, I am in need of any help I can get. I will be checking on this thread, and not giving up on the tank. I have made it this far, I will be continuing, I am just hoping that some help from real experts who also arent LFS owners will be a serious help. Thank you so much in advance for the help, I am very nervous posting here. I do really feel ashamed of my tank, I wish I didn't but I do, so please go easy on it as I know it is in rough shape and I also wish for it to look like the amazing tanks posted on here every day. I am most proud of keeping the same pair of clowns and shrimp alive for the last three years, they are my oldest critters since the last crash.

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@Turtilinni that seems like a real journey. I would not feel bad at all. I started in the 80’s and can definitely tell you I have had crashes you would t believe and everything from great pretty tanks to harvesting GHA with a shovel. Well ok maybe not a shovel. The tank looks nice right now. I am sorry that I don’t know the setting for your lights, but if GHA is an overwhelming issue, there are a few things you can do. 5ppm nitrates and .02 phosphates does not seem out of line at all.

Not sure of the availability of copepods and live phyto there but adding pods and dosing live phytoplankton can really help. Pods work like a micro clean up crew and the live phyto will help to out compete the nuisance algae.

As for lighting, you may want to search on here, or post in general questions to find what other people are using for settings. I run my lights much longer than 6 hours, but I ramp them up and down to simulate morning through evening.
 

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Hello again! I dealt with horrible algae for many months. What finally eradicated it was GFO, a rip clean, and growing lots of corals to out compete the GHA. Have you thought about getting some Xenia? It looks beautiful, grows quick, is crazy hardy, and should cover your rock in no time. Then algae can't grow.

What is your feeding regimen? WHat salt do you use? How often do you perform water changes? Do you dose? Most importantly, what are your goals for your tank?


Keep us updated! I'm wishing you lots of success.
 
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@Turtilinni that seems like a real journey. I would not feel bad at all. I started in the 80’s and can definitely tell you I have had crashes you would t believe and everything from great pretty tanks to harvesting GHA with a shovel. Well ok maybe not a shovel. The tank looks nice right now. I am sorry that I don’t know the setting for your lights, but if GHA is an overwhelming issue, there are a few things you can do. 5ppm nitrates and .02 phosphates does not seem out of line at all.

Not sure of the availability of copepods and live phyto there but adding pods and dosing live phytoplankton can really help. Pods work like a micro clean up crew and the live phyto will help to out compete the nuisance algae.

As for lighting, you may want to search on here, or post in general questions to find what other people are using for settings. I run my lights much longer than 6 hours, but I ramp them up and down to simulate morning through evening.
Ah thank you so much, I feel better already. Looks like I need to do some lighting research as every light has its own system. The copepod idea is interesting to me, they stopped selling pods up here in Canada during the pandemic for a while, at least in my city, but recently they are returning to stores. Do you know any good places that sell pods in Canada? I only ask bc the actual pods sell like hotcakes and most weeks I can only find bottles of Phytoplankton for sale. Thank you for the kind words, sometimes I feel like I am shovelling GHA as well lol, I took out about a 10-gallon bucket worth over the last few months. It just feels so much better hearing I am not the only one with crashes and mistakes, when you work for so long on your own you start to feel like the only person on earth to mess up a tank so bad, but experts like you remind me that I am not alone!
 

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Ah thank you so much, I feel better already. Looks like I need to do some lighting research as every light has its own system. The copepod idea is interesting to me, they stopped selling pods up here in Canada during the pandemic for a while, at least in my city, but recently they are returning to stores. Do you know any good places that sell pods in Canada? I only ask bc the actual pods sell like hotcakes and most weeks I can only find bottles of Phytoplankton for sale. Thank you for the kind words, sometimes I feel like I am shovelling GHA as well lol, I took out about a 10-gallon bucket worth over the last few months. It just feels so much better hearing I am not the only one with crashes and mistakes, when you work for so long on your own you start to feel like the only person on earth to mess up a tank so bad, but experts like you remind me that I am not alone!
Sorry I have no idea who sells in Canada. I believe I have seen posts where people from Canada remark about how so many things we have access to in the US are not available there. But I thought I saw someone responding about getting some from somewhere, but it might have been the UK.
 

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You could start with looking up the AB+ Settings for radions It’s not my favorite profile but it’s one of the most solid and a great starting point.

There’s a reasons behind your algae issues that you need to figure out. We can help. How much do you feed a day, and do you add or dose any products of any kind. We need to know everything that you put in that water on a daily, weekly, monthly, whatever basis

What is your source water? Are you using RODI?

I don’t want to overwhelm. I’ll stop here And give a chance for a reply

Honestly tank looks good for the age. It just seems like a nice FOWLR Setup and you want to start keeping corals

(I started the hobby at 16, I get what you mean and imagine it would be even harder and more isolated at 13)
 
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Hello again! I dealt with horrible algae for many months. What finally eradicated it was GFO, a rip clean, and growing lots of corals to out compete the GHA. Have you thought about getting some Xenia? It looks beautiful, grows quick, is crazy hardy, and should cover your rock in no time. Then algae can't grow.

What is your feeding regimen? WHat salt do you use? How often do you perform water changes? Do you dose? Most importantly, what are your goals for your tank?


Keep us updated! I'm wishing you lots of success.
Super interesting response here, I love it. So I started running GFO about a month ago when my phosphates started peaking. It absolutely has ripped them out of the tank, so I am trying to ease off the GFO, but once I removed it for the first time the algae came back, so I just put it back in the other day. Phosphates were 0.06 before the last water change two days ago, dropped down to 0.02 once I readded the GFO. I am trying to keep phosphates low enough to not supercharge the algae while also keeping the coral alive, so I like your idea of using some coral to outcompete the algae, bc currently the opposite is happening and my algae is outcompeting my coral. As for the questions, feeding is alternating brine and mysis shrimp every two days, so like mysis on Monday, brine on Wednesday etc etc. I could maybe feed less? I just am trying to make sure my Bangaii get enough food as they are the newest critters and eat more than the clowns and shrimp ever did. For salt, I use Instant Ocean Reef Crystals, basically the cheapest stuff I can get. I used some fancy salt once for a year but never found it made any sort of difference worth the massive price difference, but I am curious if you have had any success with other salts. Water changes are 10% every two weeks, and 25% every month. Dosing not yet, I actually own a doser, and I think some of the chems to dose with, I just have never gotten the thing working. So far I have just manually added and adjusted levels when things are wrong, so I have yet to set up consistent dosing. If you have any suggestions of what and how much to dose of something let me know as I am interested and technically have the worst part done of actually buying the machine. Oh yeah also full RO/DI system, I actually got that in the last six months and I do think it has helped my water quality a lot. In spring when the mountains defrost there tends to be a lot of general **** mixed in our drinking water here in town, so getting to bypass a yearly tank **** up by method of RO/DI has been great. Finally goals for the tank, that is something I think about a lot. My primary goal would be to grow some simple corals out, to consistently keep coral alive the way I do fish. I feel confident with most fish that I can take care of them and they will live good lives in captivity, coral I just do not feel that way. Too many frags wasted. If I could just keep the GHA, along with all other pests and algae at least somewhat away that would be amazing. I know it is impossible to run a tank without dealing with these issues, but I also know most marine tanks can grow coral better than I can. If I can just get coral growth under control, I feel I can deal with most fish and other aspects of the hobby on my own. I am going to try looking for Zenia next time I am out, I have seen it but never bought it before, but I also will hold on if you think I should change anything beforehand to give the Zenia the best chances. So yeah basically the goal is to grow coral consistently, not even complicated hard corals, just some base beginner ones to go with my original two corals. If I can feel confident in my coral-raising abilities, then I believe there will be a lot less guilt on my end about all the mistakes I have made with coral. Thanks for the suggestions and well wishes~ Jasper
 
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You could start with looking up the AB+ Settings for radions It’s not my favorite profile but it’s one of the most solid and a great starting point.

There’s a reasons behind your algae issues that you need to figure out. We can help. How much do you feed a day, and do you add or dose any products of any kind. We need to know everything that you put in that water on a daily, weekly, monthly, whatever basis

What is your source water? Are you using RODI?

I don’t want to overwhelm. I’ll stop here And give a chance for a reply

Honestly tank looks good for the age. It just seems like a nice FOWLR Setup and you want to start keeping corals

(I started the hobby at 16, I get what you mean and imagine it would be even harder and more isolated at 13)
These are amazing answers, I answered most of these questions in another reply just moments ago that you should check out, but as for what I am adding completely overall? I think the last real chemical move I made was using one of those cyano remover kits about two months ago now, and since then it has been full focus on phosphates so nothing besides GFO. Oh and yes Live Rock, which interestingly they no longer sell in my province. No idea why, most of my pieces are from years ago but I have not seen any live rock for sale in my area for years now. Anyways thank you so much for the advice, the AB+ setting is a good starting point, any recommendation for what span of time I should spread it over? Bc I am always looking at the premade lighting loadouts and have no clue what to pick, so even hearing that AB+ is mildly positive is a big help
 
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Sorry I have no idea who sells in Canada. I believe I have seen posts where people from Canada remark about how so many things we have access to in the US are not available there. But I thought I saw someone responding about getting some from somewhere, but it might have been the UK.
Fair enough I will make a post about it if I can find the right area to post in, Ik there has to be some Canadian retailers at least on one of our two coasts lol, but I also agree that most things you see as a Canadian in the hobby are US only, and finding access to American products can be very difficult. Hopefully we get some people like you up here in Canada selling pods one day, bc Ik my lfs is importing them from America which skyrockets the price and demand.
 

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Fair enough I will make a post about it if I can find the right area to post in, Ik there has to be some Canadian retailers at least on one of our two coasts lol, but I also agree that most things you see as a Canadian in the hobby are US only, and finding access to American products can be very difficult. Hopefully we get some people like you up here in Canada selling pods one day, bc Ik my lfs is importing them from America which skyrockets the price and demand.
I think it comes with a duration included

Make a trip to the US to the nearest hotel for a few days and have them shipped there

Ummm I didn’t just suggest that if anyone asks
 

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Xenia will ruin your tank in a year. I would avoid like the plague

Your rock sounds phosphate bound to me

What happens is phosphate is bound / attached to your live rock inside and out. And then there is phosphate in the water
These are in equilibrium.

Your gfo removed phosphate from the water. The test kits test the water. The numbers go down. Yaay. But then, the equilibrium is unbalanced. This allows the rock to leach (unbind, detach) phosphate back into the water causing the numbers to increase again.

As phosphate unbinds from the rock it becomes exposed to the things needed for hair algae to grow - light, water current, food/nutrients in the water, and as it unbinds, hair algae grows on the rocks due to this change

Does this sound like a technical explanation for the pattern your experiencing ?

The rocks can continued to do this for months and months depending how much is bound in them. It’s a challenge that has multiple ways to overcome

You can do it
Fast and difficult
Slow and easy

Or you can randomly do water changes, pull algae, add gfo, etc and not make a dent because it takes a real effort to defeat and time your not having something working on fixing the problem is time allowing the problem to rebuild
 

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I think it comes with a duration included

Make a trip to the US to the nearest hotel for a few days and have them shipped there

Ummm I didn’t just suggest that if anyone asks

@Reef By Steele you would ship to a border hotel right? No questions asked?

Asking for a friend
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As @VintageReefer said, I purchased used dry “live rock” for a tank and fought turf algae and phosphates for quite some time. I dosed homemade NoPox for an extended time and finally was able to conquer the phosphates. Also if you do choose to get Xenia, it can take over. I would only recommend it if you can isolate an island or grow it on the back wall and keep it separate from the rockwork. However it can migrate.
 

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@Reef By Steele you would ship to a border hotel right? No questions asked?

Asking for a friend
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Theoretically lol, we ship to all US addresses. I would have no way of knowing what someone does with our product after they receive it.

Replying for a friend.
 

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When you feed every other day, do you only feed what they will eat within a minute or two? I ask as I feed heavily, but also stock heavily. If you have an excess settling on the substrate that can cause elevated nutrients.
 
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Xenia will ruin your tank in a year. I would avoid like the plague

Your rock sounds phosphate bound to me

What happens is phosphate is bound / attached to your live rock inside and out. And then there is phosphate in the water
These are in equilibrium.

Your gfo removed phosphate from the water. The test kits test the water. The numbers go down. Yaay. But then, the equilibrium is unbalanced. This allows the rock to leach (unbind, detach) phosphate back into the water causing the numbers to increase again.

As phosphate unbinds from the rock it becomes exposed to the things needed for hair algae to grow - light, water current, food/nutrients in the water, and as it unbinds, hair algae grows on the rocks due to this change

Does this sound like a technical explanation for the pattern your experiencing ?

The rocks can continued to do this for months and months depending how much is bound in them. It’s a challenge that has multiple ways to overcome

You can do it
Fast and difficult
Slow and easy

Or you can randomly do water changes, pull algae, add gfo, etc and not make a dent because it takes a real effort to defeat and time your not having something working on fixing the problem is time allowing the problem to rebuild
Yes this is absolutely the technical explanation for this problem I have been facing! This is great for searching up information, as it is the exact cycle I am seemingly caught in!
 

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