“Best” ICP test?

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Your barium source will likely be in one of those 4 bottles. Find the one that has it and stop it.
I see actually they have barium in the part 1 bottle. We are solving the mysteries here. Hehe.

Tin could be the tubing.
Barium part 1 bottle.
Aluminum still not known where it came from. Frozen food, pellets, ?
 

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I see actually they have barium in the part 1 bottle. We are solving the mysteries here. Hehe.

Tin could be the tubing.
Barium part 1 bottle.
Aluminum still not known where it came from. Frozen food, pellets, ?

Ha, yes!

Aluminum is pretty common especially in younger systems. It can come in with frozen feeds, adsorbers, salt, source water, etc.

GFO will help pull it. Also, do some water changes. If it continues to trend up, you’ll need to find the source.
 

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Ha, yes!

Aluminum is pretty common especially in younger systems. It can come in with frozen feeds, adsorbers, salt, source water, etc.

GFO will help pull it. Also, do some water changes. If it continues to trend up, you’ll need to find the source.
My tank is actually pretty young is about 6 months now, already full of sps, mostly acro and they are doing ok for a young setting. I dot water changes every week. I will keep monitoring. The aluminum thing with future ICP.

Thanks for your help.
 

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Barium 50.77 mcg/l. Ideal 9.98 by ATI
Tin 7.87 mcg/l Ideal 0.50 by ATI
Aluminum 46.02 mcg/l. Ideal 0.10 by ATI

What do you think?

I think none of those are cause for action, except possibly removing any white media present (such as nitrifying or denitrifying blocks or phosphate binders) since they may release aluminum.
 

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I think none of those are cause for action, except possibly removing any white media present (such as nitrifying or denitrifying blocks or phosphate binders) since they may release aluminum.
I don't have any media or blocks. Thanks for your input and help.
 

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I agree with Randy,

Aluminium in this concentration range is quite frequently found in tanks (aluminium is a very abundant element!) without any negative effects. Also the tin (typical sources are plastics, tubing etc) and barium (sources: zeolithes, many sea salts) are not of any concern at the measured level.

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I agree with Randy,

Aluminium in this concentration range is quite frequently found in tanks (aluminium is a very abundant element!) without any negative effects. Also the tin (typical sources are plastics, tubing etc) and barium (sources: zeolithes, many sea salts) are not of any concern at the measured level.

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Christoph,

Just a silly question, on some reefers ICP I seen that Oceamo recommends action when tin is at zero. See below.

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What is the benefit of adding tin?

Thank you in advance.
 

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My last Oceamo test took almost 3 weeks to get back so if you are in a hurry I would suggest Reef Labs which generally takes about a week. I have used both with very little discrepancy between the two.
 

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I agree with Randy,

Aluminium in this concentration range is quite frequently found in tanks (aluminium is a very abundant element!) without any negative effects. Also the tin (typical sources are plastics, tubing etc) and barium (sources: zeolithes, many sea salts) are not of any concern at the measured level.

br,
Christoph
Really appreciate your input Chris, it great hear the input from all you guys who has been many years than me in the hobby. Now I feel lot better. Thanks again everyone Randy, ReefAlcoholic, and Chris. To take part of your time to help another fellow reefer.

BTW. Chris I will get ICP-MS in about a month to compare.
 

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Christoph,

Just a silly question, on some reefers ICP I seen that Oceamo recommends action when tin is at zero. See below.

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What is the benefit of adding tin?

Thank you in advance.

Good question! Tin is documented to be biologically essential or at least relevant in some organisms, see for example

To the best of my knowledge, there is no solid data available regarding marine life or coral. Since certain biological functions cannot be entirely ruled out, we recommend maintaining a detectable level of tin. However, this recommendation applies specifically to our ICP-MS analysis, where the limits of detection for tin are exceptionally low. In contrast, on our ICP-OES reports, undetectable levels of tin are flagged as green.
 
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My last Oceamo test took almost 3 weeks to get back so if you are in a hurry I would suggest Reef Labs which generally takes about a week. I have used both with very little discrepancy between the two.

Hello!

I assume that was quite recently? We have had a week of vacation the first days of september, and were afterwards struck by the floodings in central europe (we had to evacuate the lab with all equipment). This caused delay on sample processing. We are back up and running, and turnaround from the US is back to ~7-10 days. :)

All the best, Christoph
 

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Hello!

I assume that was quite recently? We have had a week of vacation the first days of september, and were afterwards struck by the floodings in central europe (we had to evacuate the lab with all equipment). This caused delay on sample processing. We are back up and running, and turnaround from the US is back to ~7-10 days. :)

All the best, Christoph
Hey, where can I purchase the sampling kit? I’d like to use Oceamo but I do not know where to purchase it from. Do you have a USA based provider ? I’m in south Florida btw.
 
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