Looking a little closer at your rock...was that dry pukani rock? If so it can be loaded with dead stuff and definitely take a while to cycle as all that funk starts rehydrating and rotting.
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Yeah it was pukani dry rock and yeah im sure there are dead stuff inside, but since it is a brand new tank i thought it would be fine to add the rocks after rinsed.
I have added prodibio biodigest will that help the process of dehydrating the dead organisms and speed up the process?
Yea. It's part of the process.
Some folks get freaked out by the details of the process.
Stuff rots. Makes ammonia. Bacteria forms and eats it.
Tank is cycled.
Americans don't eat or ferment thier Own food much any more so it's a lost art. We didn't make regional beer and wine no dates or teas. And cheese for a very long time. While I was in Germany for a few years it was common knowledge.
Here bacteria and dirt is bad.
It's fine to cycle this way, when I did my pukani the water was very yellow and also high in phosphate.
It may be something to check and look into lanthanum chloride dosing to bring down high phosphates before you add light and livestock.
Ok, i will try to find lanthanum chloride and dose the tank, what about your water color? How did you manage the color did it disappear over time or you had to change large amounts of water.
I used lanthanum to drop phosphates, (repeatedly, like test, dose daily or ever few days depending on test readings) as it leached from the rock. I used a separate container so I left the water behind and used all new saltwater to fill the tank.
In your case I would do the lanthanum dosing until phosphates stabilize, assuming the cycle is complete, I would then do a massive water change about 50-70% if you can. Let tank run a couple days after that and then consider it good to put livestock in as long as ammonia is zero.
Now I have to find lanthanum, do you know of anyother names for this or what it looks like? The issue here with aquarium shops they know nothing all they know their traditional trial and error which leads to lots of loss of livestock and others I was there they even dont have cleanup crew in their tanks I asked if they have coraline algae. Their answer is good light and good water parameter will form coraline algae which didnt sound realistic to me 
too sad that we dont have people with knowledge here in Norther Iraq - Kurdistan
too sad that we dont have people with knowledge here in Norther Iraq - Kurdistan
You could might find it a Pool supply, it will be cheaper. SeaKlear makes a phosphate remover that is lanthanum chloride.Now I have to find lanthanum, do you know of anyother names for this or what it looks like? The issue here with aquarium shops they know nothing all they know their traditional trial and error which leads to lots of loss of livestock and others I was there they even dont have cleanup crew in their tanks I asked if they have coraline algae. Their answer is good light and good water parameter will form coraline algae which didnt sound realistic to me
Some aquarium marketed ones are Brightwells phosphate remover or phosphate rx
Vahanyos
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You're still cycling bud. Leave your tank be for another couple weeks. I wouldn't recommend adding anything. One thing I've learned with additives is you fix one thing, and another problem arises.
Let your tank cycle completely and it will balance itself out. Patience young grasshopper
Let your tank cycle completely and it will balance itself out. Patience young grasshopper
Based on my reading phosphate is not that high it is shown in the photo below. I will be adding prodibio biodigest after another week and then I will test the water and will keep cleaning the filter socks once every 3-4 days. Then lets see what happens
Vahanyos
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Just to share my experience when i first started...
I am running on my second tank now, the first one of which i started and almost immediately before my cycle was completed i was trying to get my parameters in check with additives, stressing about why some levels are too high or low, etc... And it indeed did create a huge issue for me trying to keep my tank stabilized.
My second tank, which i didn't cycle with fish or anything. I used Dr. Tims, let my tank sit for about 4-5 weeks, tested to make sure my cycle was finished, and to my surprise the whole tank literally stabilized it'self as time went by. I have not done any testing for about 3 months now. Occasional Ammonia check every week or two... but that's it. During the cycle period your parameters are literally going to be out of whack and will give you a headache trying to understand it all... By giving it time, it reaches a happy balance on it's own and will maintain that balance as long as you keep up with water changes and really provide good husbandry and keep the tank clean.
Tip: a water change is literally the BEST thing you can do for your tank. Also, I have very healthy corals, happy fish, and corraline already growing and my tank is about 5 months old now... with NO additives. Only thing i use is Chemipure Elite, and filter floss. I keep up with weekly water changes and stir my sand bed every week, not too crazy but just run a chopstick through it a couple times. I also siphon out really big piles of poop i see in corners or crevices, and blow my rocks with a baster every 2 weeks or so and let my filter suck it all up..
less is more to be honest, just keep up with water changes and you'll see how well your tank will do naturally. If nobody has told you yet, when you stock fish, do it very slowly. Like a week at a time, to make sure your filtration can keep up with it. Nothing good ever comes out when you rush in this hobby.
I am running on my second tank now, the first one of which i started and almost immediately before my cycle was completed i was trying to get my parameters in check with additives, stressing about why some levels are too high or low, etc... And it indeed did create a huge issue for me trying to keep my tank stabilized.
My second tank, which i didn't cycle with fish or anything. I used Dr. Tims, let my tank sit for about 4-5 weeks, tested to make sure my cycle was finished, and to my surprise the whole tank literally stabilized it'self as time went by. I have not done any testing for about 3 months now. Occasional Ammonia check every week or two... but that's it. During the cycle period your parameters are literally going to be out of whack and will give you a headache trying to understand it all... By giving it time, it reaches a happy balance on it's own and will maintain that balance as long as you keep up with water changes and really provide good husbandry and keep the tank clean.
Tip: a water change is literally the BEST thing you can do for your tank. Also, I have very healthy corals, happy fish, and corraline already growing and my tank is about 5 months old now... with NO additives. Only thing i use is Chemipure Elite, and filter floss. I keep up with weekly water changes and stir my sand bed every week, not too crazy but just run a chopstick through it a couple times. I also siphon out really big piles of poop i see in corners or crevices, and blow my rocks with a baster every 2 weeks or so and let my filter suck it all up..
less is more to be honest, just keep up with water changes and you'll see how well your tank will do naturally. If nobody has told you yet, when you stock fish, do it very slowly. Like a week at a time, to make sure your filtration can keep up with it. Nothing good ever comes out when you rush in this hobby.
Yup.You're still cycling bud. Leave your tank be for another couple weeks. I wouldn't recommend adding anything. One thing I've learned with additives is you fix one thing, and another problem arises.
Let your tank cycle completely and it will balance itself out. Patience young grasshopper
Looks good!Based on my reading phosphate is not that high it is shown in the photo below. I will be adding prodibio biodigest after another week and then I will test the water and will keep cleaning the filter socks once every 3-4 days. Then lets see what happens
That's good, I was getting 3.0ppm from my dry pukani when I started soaking it. It was of course a smaller water volume but still a ridiculous amount of phosphate.Based on my reading phosphate is not that high it is shown in the photo below. I will be adding prodibio biodigest after another week and then I will test the water and will keep cleaning the filter socks once every 3-4 days. Then lets see what happens
I agree with letting things sit and not jacking around with parameters while you are cycling and the tank is maturing. However, dry pukani is known to leach phosphates and contribute to algae problems so I would dose lanthanum if the levels were high. that said I think you are doing the right thing with continuing to monitor, based on testing.
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