Wrasse QT in 10g with Copper Power

[Ziggy17]

Ok so I bought a Malanurus Wrasse of a fellow hobbyist locally. It’s a mostly fully grown fish about 4”. It’s has never been treated for copper. So i set up a 10g QT to treat with Copper Power. I do not have an ATO setup. The heater is a 100 watt that stays at 78.

Questions.

Is this enough live rock from my sump to handle the bioload? See pic. I have the bubble catcher from my sump I can add as well if needed.
The filter was going in my sump for a week, is that ample for aeration and also for bioload?
Once I dose my copper to 2.5 checked with a Hanna, should I expect my copper to reduce through absorption?
There will be evaporation, do I dose the fresh water with copper to 2.5 every time top it off?
Will I require a WC if my ammonia levels are 0 for the duration of the QT? Salifert ammonia test kit.
Do I wait a day or two prior to dosing the copper to keep stress down? Was a 45 minute transport.
Will anything in the tank be ok to use again once exposed to copper? Sponge filter specifically.

If I have missed anything, please comment. I’m new to this form of QT and appreciate all the help as I want to get it right.

Thanks again for your help folks.

Zig.

@fishmedics

 

[threebuoys]

Live rock or sand comprised of calcium do not work well in a QT with copper because the calcium will absorb copper. That makes it very difficult to maintain the proper concentration throughout the 30-day period.

A glass bottom plus a container of play sand about 2 inches deep will give the wrasse a place to hide. I use a tupperware type kitchen storage container to hold the sand. Several pieces of pvc also helps.

Foam bubble filters that have been cycled work well in QT if you have them. If not, you will need to check ammonia daily to avoid problems. You can top off for evaporation using RO/DI or distilled water. If you have to remove water to combat ammonia, you will need to dose the replacement salt water with copper to the same concentration in the QT.

Be sure to have a tight-fitting cover. Wrasse are notorious jumpers. Don't want him to wind up on the floor!

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ok so I bought a Malanurus Wrasse of a fellow hobbyist locally. It’s a mostly fully grown fish about 4”. It’s has never been treated for copper. So i set up a 10g QT to treat with Copper Power. I do not have an ATO setup. The heater is a 100 watt that stays at 78.

Questions.

Is this enough live rock from my sump to handle the bioload? See pic. I have the bubble catcher from my sump I can add as well if needed.
The filter was going in my sump for a week, is that ample for aeration and also for bioload?
Once I dose my copper to 2.5 checked with a Hanna, should I expect my copper to reduce through absorption?
There will be evaporation, do I dose the fresh water with copper to 2.5 every time top it off?
Will I require a WC if my ammonia levels are 0 for the duration of the QT? Salifert ammonia test kit.
Do I wait a day or two prior to dosing the copper to keep stress down? Was a 45 minute transport.
Will anything in the tank be ok to use again once exposed to copper? Sponge filter specifically.

If I have missed anything, please comment. I’m new to this form of QT and appreciate all the help as I want to get it right.

Thanks again for your help folks.

Zig.

@fishmedics

Especially if using copper based medication, you want ZERO rock/sand/rubble in the tank which necomes an absorbent and cannot not placed back in display tank. In lieu of sand, you want a container with sand for the wrasse
For water change, you want to mix it to the same copper level as QT tank before restoring water and for Wrasse, keep coppersafe at 2.1-2.25. Using a reliable test kit, you will change water based on test results of ammonia above .025-.030

 

[TheStrangler]

As others have said about a container of sand, use well rinsed silica or quartz sand, the aragonite stuff will absorb copper.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Just to add - a 10 gallon QT is pretty small for a 4” wrasse, they need room to swim.

 

[Ziggy17]

Just to add - a 10 gallon QT is pretty small for a 4” wrasse, they need room to swim.

Unfortunately that’s all I have. It’s either that or straight to the DT

 

[vetteguy53081]

Unfortunately that’s all I have. It’s either that or straight to the DT

Petco has their tanks on sale at Half price and regardless of fish, a 20 gallon long is best. You can place in display but if you get an outbreak, youre going to need a 20 long or larger if all fish are affected

 

[MnFish1]

Ok so I bought a Malanurus Wrasse of a fellow hobbyist locally. It’s a mostly fully grown fish about 4”. It’s has never been treated for copper. So i set up a 10g QT to treat with Copper Power. I do not have an ATO setup. The heater is a 100 watt that stays at 78.

Questions.

Is this enough live rock from my sump to handle the bioload? See pic. I have the bubble catcher from my sump I can add as well if needed.

As others have said - it's not a good idea to use live rock. You could use a sponge filter with bottled bacteria when you set up (or you can have a sponge filter in your sump which you can move to the QT when needed (don't put it back in the display unless all copper removed.

The filter was going in my sump for a week, is that ample for aeration and also for bioload?
Once I dose my copper to 2.5 checked with a Hanna, should I expect my copper to reduce through absorption?

Copper will drop if you use rock. I do not think there is any way to know whether there is enough bacteria on your filter after only a week. I would tend to use bottled bacteria - additionally, get an ammonia alert badge.

There will be evaporation, do I dose the fresh water with copper to 2.5 every time top it off?

No - just use fresh dechlorinated tap water. If you remove water (not through evaporation) - you need to put back in water at 2.5 copper.

Will I require a WC if my ammonia levels are 0 for the duration of the QT? Salifert ammonia test kit.

No

Do I wait a day or two prior to dosing the copper to keep stress down? Was a 45 minute transport.

No

Will anything in the tank be ok to use again once exposed to copper? Sponge filter specifically.

Anything that is non-porous that can be well rinsed can be re-used. I would tend to just keep the sponge filter in your QT tank (as you will probably need it again)

If I have missed anything, please comment. I’m new to this form of QT and appreciate all the help as I want to get it right.

Dose carefully. Watch for stress. The reason for the sponge filter (IMHO) - is the aeration it provides - which is important for QT, and when using Prazipro.

Thanks again for your help folks.

Zig.

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