Why cant I keep blood/fire shrimp alive?

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Ok so I cant figure out for the life of me WHY I cant seem to keep blood shrimp alive, I bought one about 2 months ago and it was dead the next morning....Well on Tuesday I won a jumbo blood shrimp in a raffle at the F.M.A.S meeting and he was doing great, eating pellet's, mysis shrimp and just about anything that I put in the tank for food
Now tonight when I came home I wanted to take a look in the tank with the flash light and LO and BEHOLD my new jumbo blood shrimp is DEAD...

I am REALLY upset about this because it's been a bad week because wednesdayI losr my starry belnny that I have had pretty much since I started the tank, not to mention the starry blenny is BY FAR my favorite type of fish "loads of personality and he would eat from my fingertips"

I am totally stumped as to why I would lost 2 cleaner shrimp so quickly since my tank is in GREAT condition, everything in the tank does great "except for blood shrimp"

My tank params are as follows

Temp - 78-79
Ph - 8.2
NH3 - 0
No2 - 0
No3 - 0
Po4 - 0
Salinity - 1.023-1.024
Calcium - 480-500
Mag - 1380-1400
Alk 10.5

So as you can see my water is PERFECT, I only add ESV B-Ionic "10Ml's a day of each" and 8Ml's of vinegar a day as a maintenance dose in order to keep my No3 and Po4 at 0
I also do a 10-15 gallon water change every week

PLEASE help me figure out WHY I cant keep blood shrimp alive as I really love them, Also ALL of my other inverts do great " 2 peppermint shrimp, 3 sexy shimp, anemone crab, hermits, nasarrius snails, turbo snails, and everything else
 
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PLEASE HELP!!!
I really LOVE blood shrimp and skunk cleaner shrimp but I want to know WHY they are dying in my tank, EVERYTHING tests out perfect yet I cant seem to keep these little guy's alive

PLEASE help me figure out why
 

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i have no clue there doesnt seem to be anything wrong that i can tell...do you have coral in your tank?it could be copper in the water if you dont have corals that you dont test for aside from that not super knowledgable on shrimp but wish you luck and you came to the right place
 

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What fish and invert wise is also in the tank?
How are you acclimating the shrimp?
 

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Something is definitely wrong if they keep dying. I've had mine for 5 years and it was in my brother-in-laws tank for awhile before that. It's been through 4+ tank moves. They're very hardy organisms, I'm thinking potentially heavy metal contamination or some other critter is killing it.

Are you sure it just didn't molt and it's somewhere in there?
 
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I have LOADS of coral in the tank and they are ALL growing very fast, I drip acclimated the shrimp both times for 2 hours at a VERY slow drip

Also NONE of my other inverts die...just my blood shrimp...I have peppermint shrimp, snails, hermits and a few other inverts

ALso the ONLY fish I have in the tank is a filamented fairy wrasse
 

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could be the peppermint shrimp harassing them.
they can be very nasty shrimp,in my opinion worst thing anyone can put in their tank.
 

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could be the peppermint shrimp harassing them.
they can be very nasty shrimp,in my opinion worst thing anyone can put in their tank.

Peppermint shrimp? Are you sure you're not thinking of Banded Coral Shrimp? I've never seen peppermint shrimp do any damage to anything other than LPS when they are trying to get food.

My initial thought was acclimation, but it sounds like that was done well. I was thinking it might be a mantis shrimp, but not if you're keeping other inverts without issues. Same goes with copper and iodide levels. The wrasse would be a possibility for small shrimp, but you said that the newest one was jumbo...

Hate to say it, but I have no idea.

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Have you considered keeping the creature in one of those "Inside The Tank" plastic refuges for a week to 15 days, before releasing it in the tank? As far as I know peppermint shrimps and wrasses are very territorial, and tend to attack new creatures in the tanks. In the case wrasses is generally recommended to be the last fish you add to a tank, because this behavior.
 

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When shrimp molt, they become immobile for several hours. They look dead but they may not be. Next time it happens, try moving it to a qt tank 1. if it is in fact dead it wont cause a mini cycle in your dt 2. so other cuc don't start eating them because they are easy prey. I had a peppermint shrimp for about a week and then I saw it sitting on the bottom with my pom pom crab eating its head. I later learned from the guy I bought him from said he was due for a molt and that's what happened.
 
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filamented fairy wrasse<<<<<< possibility

No the flasher wrasse could care less about the blood shrimp, the first one dies by the nest morning, this second one was twice s big as the flasher wrasse and he was in the tank for 3 days and was eating pellets, the flasher wrasse was also letting him "clean" him so I know that there was no bullying going on, I really dont understand WHY I keep loosing them considering the water is essentialy perfect and I dont lose ANYTHING else in the tank

ALso fwiw I have a grounding probe in the JUST IN CASE there may have been stray voltage in the tank "although I tested it with a multi meter "snap on brand so it's a quality multimeter" and there is NO stray voltage in the tank

NONE of the other things in the tank have messed with wither of the blood shrimp that I lost, I just find it very strange, Also the peppermint shrimp that I have in there are super small "about 1/2" long at most and the blood shrimp was ENORMOUS "maybe 3" or so"
 
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I have a Blood shrimp, peppermint shrimp and coral banded shrimp with no probs, I've seen my naso tang and coral beauty get next to my blood red and let it climb on their back and clean them. You must have something thats attacking it, cause everything else is living.
 

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