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Which Pods are best at algae control!

You can find thread after thread about fighting the dreaded nuisance algae. Every thread has a pretty common theme, nutrient control. There are so many methods for this, but most come down to a central theme. This theme is the reduction of the amount of organic material going to waste in our rocks and substrate. Better filters, cleaning and rinsing sand, extra equipment to develop denitrifying bacteria, and various additives such as NoPox. While I have and continue to utilize some of the before mentioned methods, an alternative or additional method is the introduction of a clean-up crew. Pods can play an intrinsic part in any clean-up crew. Reaching areas that other members such as crabs, Hermits, and snails cannot reach. These power house micro clean-up crews can help you achieve visible results and cleaner water starting with their introduction.

How do they accomplish these wondrous claims? Copepods are largely omnivorous, and convenience eaters, but most readily available species prefer and will eat algae either nuisance or provided Phytoplankton micro algae. Due to their size, copepods and amphipods can get into the smallest openings eliminating the algae clear down to the roots. An aquarist will get the greatest results from benthic (crawlers) pods, as they spend their life on and in the rocks and substrate. Tigriopus are touted as expert foragers, which they are, but unfortunately they get preyed upon due to their tendency to stay out in the open. Apocyclops and Tisbe pods are super heroes in this process, partially due to their smaller size combined with their propensity to rapidly populate. Our Harpa pod, closely related to the Tisbe is one of our offerings that I consider to be the premier combatant in these fights. They even keep their culturing vessels cleaner than all the rest.

Along with the copepods, amphipods are algae eating dynamos and do an outstanding job battling GHA. Introducing them at the first sign of GHA or better before it even starts is a great way to preemptively prepare for what is to come. Yes not all aquariums are plagued with algae issues but it seems like a majority are. With reasonable water parameters, doesn’t have to be pristine, amphipods will readily reproduce in the aquarium. How well they reproduce will be affected by the number and type of fish in the aquarium as well. In an ever changing hobby, new methods, equipment, and additives, I find it reassuring that some of the old tried and true methods continue to show awesome results.

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Had amphipods in FW that I'm assuming fed on detritus and plant matter. Bought 1200 for my salt tester and they lived once algae was all gone so were they. Can't remeber last I has seen one and none found during the tear down. Doubt fish ate them and plenty of detritus along with algae returned once I updated the lights.

I'm going to try them again and a slew of different pods to see which survive as it could be not all will appreciate my environment therefore survival of the fittest might be best approach.
 
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Had amphipods in FW that I'm assuming fed on detritus and plant matter. Bought 1200 for my salt tester and they lived once algae was all gone so were they. Can't remeber last I has seen one and none found during the tear down. Doubt fish ate them and plenty of detritus along with algae returned once I updated the lights.

I'm going to try them again and a slew of different pods to see which survive as it could be not all will appreciate my environment therefore survival of the fittest might be best approach.
Not sure where your amphipods went. I had a ton of all kinds of micro fauna in a 3XL900 that became very apparent while it was fallow and just covering any spot on the glass that I left uncleaned. However I did a deep clean before adding fish and know I messed with some palys that released paly toxin (I know because I got sick and had to take antibiotics for weeks). Since then I haven't seen any of them, not sure if I killed them all off or if the fish are just making them hide. Amphipods should have been able to live off of food waste and fish waste. Possible that you keep your tank clean enough to starve them out. But I would think their absence had to be from some other reason.

Tisbe and Apocylops along with Amphipods are probably the best for colonizing. I have had Amphipods back in the 80's that just reproduced all through the system even in the sump which was just a plain box and trickle filter no refugium.
 

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Not sure where your amphipods went. I had a ton of all kinds of micro fauna in a 3XL900 that became very apparent while it was fallow and just covering any spot on the glass that I left uncleaned. However I did a deep clean before adding fish and know I messed with some palys that released paly toxin (I know because I got sick and had to take antibiotics for weeks). Since then I haven't seen any of them, not sure if I killed them all off or if the fish are just making them hide. Amphipods should have been able to live off of food waste and fish waste. Possible that you keep your tank clean enough to starve them out. But I would think their absence had to be from some other reason.

Tisbe and Apocylops along with Amphipods are probably the best for colonizing. I have had Amphipods back in the 80's that just reproduced all through the system even in the sump which was just a plain box and trickle filter no refugium.
no one can accuse me of having a clean tank :face-with-tears-of-joy:
 
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no one can accuse me of having a clean tank :face-with-tears-of-joy:
Wasn't sure as you said the algae disappeared lol. But did read that you had detritus at the break down. Leads me to believe you had some event that wiped them out.
 

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Wasn't sure as you said the algae disappeared lol. But did read that you had detritus at the break down. Leads me to believe you had some event that wiped them out.
Considered that yet my inverts unaffected until dinos wiped everything but nassarius. Pods were gone long before that.
 
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Considered that yet my inverts unaffected until dinos wiped everything but nassarius. Pods were gone long before that.
Yeah I don’t know. I find pods in my QT observation tanks after being fallow and not fed for months. Tough little critters, But I have to think that something took them out. Maybe because of their size they got taken out by the Dino’s first.
 

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Not sure where your amphipods went. I had a ton of all kinds of micro fauna in a 3XL900 that became very apparent while it was fallow and just covering any spot on the glass that I left uncleaned. However I did a deep clean before adding fish and know I messed with some palys that released paly toxin (I know because I got sick and had to take antibiotics for weeks). Since then I haven't seen any of them, not sure if I killed them all off or if the fish are just making them hide. Amphipods should have been able to live off of food waste and fish waste. Possible that you keep your tank clean enough to starve them out. But I would think their absence had to be from some other reason.

Tisbe and Apocylops along with Amphipods are probably the best for colonizing. I have had Amphipods back in the 80's that just reproduced all through the system even in the sump which was just a plain box and trickle filter no refugium.
Re: Tisbe and Apocylops along with Amphipods are probably the best for colonizing.

Curious your thoughts on Amphipods preying on Copepods?

I’ve thought about ordering some and my tank from years ago had some (from real live rock) but was a larger tank.

Mostly I’m concerned about competition for our Mandrians in a smaller tank. 112 gallons but also a 33 gallon (larger tank has a pair, smaller tank has a single male). Never heard of ampipods competition years ago but hear quite a bit now days.

Right now the mandarins are doing well and pregnant every couple weeks and we want to make sure they continue to be well feed as we really enjoy their mating dances and the female coming to the front of the tank and getting all excited collecting pods by the glass.

I’ve been dabbling in growing some tigger pods that we happened to have excess but in general was hoping for the tank to be largely self sustaining with an occasional order to replenish/ diversify. Yes understand Tisbe as better for colonization. The tiggers are just fun food
 
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Re: Tisbe and Apocylops along with Amphipods are probably the best for colonizing.

Curious your thoughts on Amphipods preying on Copepods?

I’ve thought about ordering some and my tank from years ago had some (from real live rock) but was a larger tank.

Mostly I’m concerned about competition for our Mandrians in a smaller tank. 112 gallons but also a 33 gallon (larger tank has a pair, smaller tank has a single male). Never heard of ampipods competition years ago but hear quite a bit now days.

Right now the mandarins are doing well and pregnant every couple weeks and we want to make sure they continue to be well feed as we really enjoy their mating dances and the female coming to the front of the tank and getting all excited collecting pods by the glass.

I’ve been dabbling in growing some tigger pods that we happened to have excess but in general was hoping for the tank to be largely self sustaining with an occasional order to replenish/ diversify. Yes understand Tisbe as better for colonization. The tiggers are just fun food
I suppose it could be all about tank size and available food when it comes to amphipods. I have a tank that went fallow and the glass was covered with a film of algae as no fish or corals really so told my wife @Ocean_Queenie she didn’t need to clean the glass. Eventually the glass
Was covered with amphipods, munnid isopods, mysis shrimp and 2 or 3 different copepods, plus bristle worms. So they can definitely coexist and as I wasn’t feeding the tank, it didn’t appear that they went after each other.

I have also read that like copepods there are hundreds or thousands of amphipod species. Some are known to be more carnivores than others which are primarily or fully herbivores.
 

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I added about 8oz of blended Tisbe/Arcatia/ Cyclops. I took well over a month for them to fully establish. Now I don’t even clean the tank. They even wipe out the film algae on glass.
Have you experienced any tiny flatworms eating the pods? Mine seem to have become food for a flourishing flatworm population.
 
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Have you experienced any tiny flatworms eating the pods? Mine seem to have become food for a flourishing flatworm population.
Do you have any pics?
 

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Do you have any pics?
to the center/ lower left corner of this Bowerbanki is a group of the flatworms. They amass on the back wall which is not cleaned and my two wrasses are not managing the population well.
 

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Can’t really see them on my phone but will take a look on computer tomorrow. What wrasses do you have?
 

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Hey Steele. Since you are the pod expert, can you tell me if my filter socks will trap/remove my pods? I am hesitant to use my socks but my nitrate is starting to climb. I appreciate any advice you can give me.
 
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Hey Steele. Since you are the pod expert, can you tell me if my filter socks will trap/remove my pods? I am hesitant to use my socks but my nitrate is starting to climb. I appreciate any advice you can give me.
Filter socks are fine enough to trap copepods, but if your pods are healthy and reproducing the socks should not decimate your population. I run roller mats in three of my tanks and socks in the other two. I have thriving pod populations in them all, and I do not add pods more than once a month, and that is just in the two tanks with mandarins. It may take a while to establish a population, and depending which pods you want. The benthic pods do not spend a lot of time in the water column as they crawl on the substrate and rocks. The pelagic pods will be taken out more, but they are also preyed upon more. Those pods should be added more frequently to tanks with anthias, wrasses and other high metabolism cruising fish.
 

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Hi i think you should add to your article that Acartia pods eat dinos. I personally know dozens of people that buy pods specifically to combat dinos and they are always asking which kind eats dinos. There is anecdotal evidence of apoc pods eating dinos but the only proven, with studies, and even recorded on a microscope, are Acartia eating dinos. Just very few places sell them.
 
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Thanks, I have sold some Acartia/Apocyclops blends for this, but haven’t been able to figure out who I sold them to, so don’t know how they performed.
 

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I added about 8oz of blended Tisbe/Arcatia/ Cyclops. I took well over a month for them to fully establish. Now I don’t even clean the tank. They even wipe out the film algae on glass.
may I ask where you obtained your copepod 8oz blended? What size tank did you put the 8 oz in?
 
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