Vlamingi Tang Cloudy Eye

[pandaparties]

Woke up this morning and my vlamingis eye looks really off. One is totally fine the other is like its filled with air almost, I can see a bubble in it too. I had a shipment of 2 quarantined fish just last week and one didn't make it (though it was small and it looked like it got eaten by my shark) so I didn't think disease (pic of that below). I've had this tang for 2 years with no ssuei.

Salt 1.025
Alk 8.4
pH 8.4
Temp 77
Nitrates 30
Phos .15

I run carbon/gfo. All my other fish look fine, corals fine. He's still eating and swimming

Good eye

 

[bpbonds]

If You have a QT I would put him in, mine has cloudy eyes and is currently in QT after a Velvet Outbreak, better safe than sorry!

 

[KING KONG]

Can u see white spots there? I lean towards ich
#fishmedic

 

[pandaparties]

If You have a QT I would put him in, mine has cloudy eyes and is currently in QT after a Velvet Outbreak, better safe than sorry!

No qt Big enough for him unfortunately and copper in tank is out of the question due to my elasmobranches.

No white spots anywhere. Breathing doesn't seem out of the ordinary although he's being a little more aggressive with his swimming than usual

 

[bpbonds]

I think its the start of something, keep a very close eye on him no pun intended.

 

[pandaparties]

@Jay Hemdal @vetteguy53081 any input? Really appreciate this help

 

[vetteguy53081]

Having a vlamingi, they are clumsy and mine had this twice. I suspect Both eye injury and water quality issue.
With a shark in the tank which is a messy housekeeper, chances your nitrates are high and may be higher than test are showing. What test kits are you using?
What is current ammonia?
How were you quarantining and with what treatment?

For Vlamingi, and having a shark as an occupant, you can safely use Ruby Rally pro but dose at 85% of recommended.

What if any symptoms were the two QT showing such as Rapid breathing, loss of appetite, weird behavior, etc

 

[pandaparties]

Having a vlamingi, they are clumsy and mine had this twice. I suspect Both eye injury and water quality issue.
With a shark in the tank which is a messy housekeeper, chances your nitrates are high and may be higher than test are showing. What test kits are you using?
What is current ammonia?
How were you quarantining and with what treatment?

For Vlamingi, and having a shark as an occupant, you can safely use Ruby Rally pro but dose at 85% of recommended.

What if any symptoms were the two QT showing such as Rapid breathing, loss of appetite, weird behavior, etc

Tests are ICP, I run a lot of high end acro that are all happy right now so I feel like water quality is good. I'll go grab a kit for ammonia, never checked it as I've never had any fish issues.

I bought the fish quarantined from a known online vendor. When they arrived I did a quick inspection, no dots/dust/heavy breathing so I rinsed them and dumped them in. The one in the DT died (whether that's disease or the shark really did just eat him I'm not sure, they've killed other fish) and the one in the sump still seems fine.

I'll look into ruby rally, any known effect on coral?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Tests are ICP, I run a lot of high end acro that are all happy right now so I feel like water quality is good. I'll go grab a kit for ammonia, never checked it as I've never had any fish issues.

I bought the fish quarantined from a known online vendor. When they arrived I did a quick inspection, no dots/dust/heavy breathing so I rinsed them and dumped them in. The one in the DT died (whether that's disease or the shark really did just eat him I'm not sure, they've killed other fish) and the one in the sump still seems fine.

I'll look into ruby rally, any known effect on coral?

Ruby is coral safe.
What shark are we talking? They usually do not do well with structures in the tank as they need maximum swimming area and again based on foods - messy dwellers.
Youre not physically testing ?
As for inspection, It is literally impossible to look at a fish and determine disease free especially from being in a bag and we have to assume ALL fish have something. Flukes and velvet are impossible to see up front and poses great risk especially to a fish like Vlamingi which would need a 100 gallon tank for treatment and risk to shark.
This is not a lecture but pointing out risks. I have gotten new fish recently and have placed them in a bucket with a 70 minute ruby bath at minimum and ive been doing this now 40 years. I have 24 tangs and will not risk one of them do to visual inspection.

 

[pandaparties]

Ruby is coral safe.
What shark are we takling? They usually do not do well with structures in the tank as they need maximum swimming area and again based on foods messy dwellers.
Youre not physically testing ?
As for inspection, It is literally impossible to look at a fish and determine disease free especially from being in a bag and we have to assume ALL fish have something. Flukes and velvet are impossible to see up front and poses great risk especially to a fish like Vlamingi which would need a 100 gallon tank for treatment and risk to shark.
This is not a lecture but pointing out risks. I have gotten new fish recently and have placed them in a bucket with a 70 minute ruby bath at minimum. I have 24 tangs and will not risk one of them do to visual inspection.

Shark is a coral catshark, tank is 10 ftx3ft. He's largely benthic and hangs in a cave most his time.

And sorry should have clarified. I tested all those Params just now with Hanna test kits and they matched up with some ICP results from ATI that just came back yesterday from a shipout last week.

And good to know on the treatment with Ruby bath on a prophylaxis basis.

I know they were shipped in methylene blue and spent 60 days in QT with a copper/metro/prazi treatment. Figured that with a quick looker over for obvious signs of stress or disease would have been sufficient

 

[pandaparties]

Ruby is coral safe.
What shark are we talking? They usually do not do well with structures in the tank as they need maximum swimming area and again based on foods - messy dwellers.
Youre not physically testing ?
As for inspection, It is literally impossible to look at a fish and determine disease free especially from being in a bag and we have to assume ALL fish have something. Flukes and velvet are impossible to see up front and poses great risk especially to a fish like Vlamingi which would need a 100 gallon tank for treatment and risk to shark.
This is not a lecture but pointing out risks. I have gotten new fish recently and have placed them in a bucket with a 70 minute ruby bath at minimum and ive been doing this now 40 years. I have 24 tangs and will not risk one of them do to visual inspection.

Double checked no detectable ammonia on salifert test

 

[Jay Hemdal]

@Jay Hemdal @vetteguy53081 any input? Really appreciate this help

Probably due to an eye injury. If you can see actual bubbles under the sclera of the eye, it may not heal. If the bubbles are small, they will sometimes resorb. Since this is a mechanical affliction, there really isn't a medication that can be used.

Here is an article on fish eye health:

Aquarium Fish: The ‘Eyes’ Have it: A Review of Eye Health in Aquarium Fishes

Aquarists need to inspect their fish closely every day, for signs of impending health problems. It is much easier to resolve a problem when it first starts, than to attempt a drastic emergency treatment when the fish is close to dying.

reefs.com

jay

 

[pandaparties]

Probably due to an eye injury. If you can see actual bubbles under the sclera of the eye, it may not heal. If the bubbles are small, they will sometimes resorb. Since this is a mechanical affliction, there really isn't a medication that can be used.

jay

Thanks for the input Jay. Unfortunately I can see actual bubbles under the eye, fingers crossed they reabsorb and he makes it.