Too big of a skimmer?

[ChrisfromBrick]

Regal 150INT 6" Internal Protein Skimmer (VarioS)

BRS Recommended for tanks up to: Heavy Bioload (Most Common) - 100 Gallons Medium Bioload - 150 Gallons Light Bioload - 210 gallons Reef Octopus In Sump 10" Protein Skimmer from Reef Octopus - with a controllable VarioS DC pumps to process more or less water, depending on your setup...

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If the time comes to upgrade my skimmer, I am wondering if I should go bigger, in the case that I also upgrade my tank by 30 gallons. I am currently running a 65g tank. Would a skimmer this size be TOO big? Would I run into problems or does it make sense to go bigger? Love the float switch and of course, the reviews.

 

[VintageReefer]

Yes. What happens is the larger rates skimmers have larger necks and smaller systems don’t have the expected bioload to be able to produce skimmate to rise up that neck

You can cheat it by overstocking the tank or skimming wet and running the water level in the skimmer above the “ideal water line” indicator on the skimmer

You should be able to get a skimmer that works for a 65 and 95

 

[PharmrJohn]

First off, depending on where you source your information, you're gonna see differing opinions as to how to size a skimmer to a tank. Some say to underdo it a tad, some say overdo it a tad. Some will add a low percentage amount when dealing with LPS and especially SPS and some say don't worry about it (some of this is dependent on what other means of filtration you have hooked up). But it IS possible to overskim. What is also important is your plan for the tank. You really should have an idea of your end goal in terms of how much livestock you're gonna have and stick with it.

And to add more confusion, if you're thinking about a Tunze 9400 series, for example, there is a HUGE difference in which you'd choose dependent on whether you go FOWLR or mixed reef.

I can tell ya that the 150 you're looking at is too big. If memory serves, it'll handle a 100g heavily stocked tank.

 

[kvansloo]

I have been running an Eshopps S-300 rated for 260 - 500 gallons on my 90 gallon tank for the last 9 years with 3 fish and it works fine pulls gunk out everyday. I dose phytoplankton nightly and shut it down all night over sizing in my opinion is a myth.

 

[PharmrJohn]

I have been running an Eshopps S-300 rated for 260 - 500 gallons on my 90 gallon tank for the last 9 years with 3 fish and it works fine pulls gunk out everyday. I dose phytoplankton nightly and shut it down all night over sizing in my opinion is a myth.

That being said, I ran an old E.T.S.S. skimmer rated for 400g on a 90 back 15 years ago when I first started out. Did fine. But it wasn't the best skimmer around. So i wasn't concerned so much as I figured what I had in excess I lacked in quality. I guess I'm just getting conservative in my old age and more prone to number chasing.

 

[PharmrJohn]

I have been running an Eshopps S-300 rated for 260 - 500 gallons on my 90 gallon tank for the last 9 years with 3 fish and it works fine pulls gunk out everyday. I dose phytoplankton nightly and shut it down all night over sizing in my opinion is a myth.

Have you ever had an issue with nutrients bottoming out with your skimmer as it is? That is my main concern.

 

[kvansloo]

Have you ever had an issue with nutrients bottoming out with your skimmer as it is? That is my main concern.

No in fact my nitrates are and have been over 85 ppm for years. At one point the nitrates were over 230 ppm. Since I have started dosing Phyto they have come down, but I don't think I will ever have a low nutrient system again at this time.

 

[ChrisfromBrick]

thanks for your replies everyone. Looking at a reef octopus and thinking I also want to find a float switch because I am recirculating my co2 scrubber through my current skimmer.

 

[VintageReefer]

My email response from Jeremy at Coralvue when inquiring about a Diablo 160xs skimmer rated for:
Heavy filtration - 100g
Medium filtration - 160g
Light filtration - 180g


Current fish load - 75g tank
Banana Wrasse
Sebae Mono
2 lyretail anthias
3 Blue Chromis
Coral Beauty Angel
Black/white Clownfish
Harbor Goby


Coralvue response:
The Diablo 160 has a larger neck which requires a larger bioload to collect skimmate but works well when that point is reached and allows for a deeper water depth. Your bioload currently is a bit on the low side but add a foxface or some tangs to the tank so you are heavily stocked and you should be able to pull off the 160.

 

[MugenReef95]

Shoot I run a regal 200INT on a 120 gallon display with a bigger sump

 

[kvansloo]

This is what I was told in an email.

Kevin it will not hurt the system at all by putting the oversized skimmer on it remember the skimmer will only remove what is in the water so what’s going to happen is it will quickly catch up with any nutrients in the water and then it will slow down or stop until the nutrients are available to remove again so it’s not an issue.

 

[VintageReefer]

This is what I was told in an email.

Kevin it will not hurt the system at all by putting the oversized skimmer on it remember the skimmer will only remove what is in the water so what’s going to happen is it will quickly catch up with any nutrients in the water and then it will slow down or stop until the nutrients are available to remove again so it’s not an issue.

I read that as it will go through inconsistent results. Sometimes doing more and sometimes doing less. Not a bad thing just setting the expectation

 

[kvansloo]

I read that as it will go through inconsistent results. Sometimes doing more and sometimes doing less. Not a bad thing just setting the expectation

My Skimmer has produced skim mate every day and once in a while it does not on these days it just keeps the water aerated and is not inconsistent. My Skimmer is still working on these days. So in my opinion at this time oversized skimmers is a myth. It may not produce skim mate every single day but it is not a problem.

 

[VintageReefer]

My Skimmer has produced skim mate every day and once in a while it does not on these days it just keeps the water aerated and is not inconsistent. My Skimmer is still working on these days. So in my opinion at this time oversized skimmers is a myth. It may not produce skim mate every single day but it is not a problem.

I agree it’s not a problem. I bought the oversized skimmer also and have no complaints and used it daily 2012-2024 And I ran much lighter bio loads than what was originally in the tank


However if it’s not producing skimmate daily, by definition, that is inconsistent

 

[kvansloo]

I agree it’s not a problem. I bought the oversized skimmer also and have no complaints and used it daily 2012-2024 And I ran much lighter bio loads than what was originally in the tank


However if it’s not producing skimmate daily, by definition, that is inconsistent

Mine produces skim mate everyday may be once a month or every 2 - 3 months it does not for one day that is not inconsistent.

 

[bakbay]

I'm of an opinion that the skimmer is the most important device in the reef tank. Therefore, I will get the biggest skimmer I can get that fits inside the sump! lol I can always feed more.

 

[VintageReefer]

Mine produces skim mate everyday may be once a month or every 2 - 3 months it does not for one day that is not inconsistent.

I’ll step down. Everyone’s results can vary and a huge impact is the bio load and stocking of the tank

I have no skin in the game. Took my skimmer offline around January and have not looked back

 

[Tide2water]

Overskimming is real, it can and does happen. If you start seeing purple foam ya gotta turn her down. I've really only seen this issue firsthand on systems that had ozone though.

 

[PharmrJohn]

I’ll step down. Everyone’s results can vary and a huge impact is the bio load and stocking of the tank

I have no skin in the game. Took my skimmer offline around January and have not looked back

Yes you did! I have been and remain impressed!

 

[bakbay]

Overskimming is real, it can and does happen. If you start seeing purple foam ya gotta turn her down. I've really only seen this issue firsthand on systems that had ozone though.

I’ve never seen this in all my 30+ years of reefing, granted that I feed heavily and nutrient is always high.