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She lives in Yokahama, so pretty reliable source.
Not the same but I was stationed in Okinawa for 4 years
No, I can't read that. However, I wish I was stationed there now because, well, what you know over 50 vs 19 is a lot different. Good news is I still have some incredible memories of the place. Bad news is that I didn't know what I had at the time vs. today...dangit all najer
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This covid thing scares the crap out of me, I'm not very good at people on a good day.
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We can get toilet paper here, but the limit is back to 1 pack per customer. Just two weeks ago it was 4 packs. The good news is I didn't see any limit on meat this week. The high price pretty much takes cares of the hoarders. We scored a bottle of alcohol for the first time since March. Hand sanitizer seems to be in stock now but off brands. No Purell. Glad retired people don't need a lot of clothes.
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hindsight is 20/20Not the same but I was stationed in Okinawa for 4 years
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This video and the estimated infection rate, death rate, and related is over 4 months old and based on now unreliable data produced by Washington University and a leading virologist at Fred Hutch Cancer Center,Trevor Bedford, PHD. Dr. Bedford has admitted that mistakes were made in the algorithm used to produce the estimates. Remember these were estimates given based on certain assumptions that do not meet the current knowledge of both the virus and the disease. The CDC now reports that testing in the general population shows a range of 6% in some location to more that 23% in other locations of individuals who have the antibodies that show they were exposed to the virus and many never got sick. This would show both the mortality, and disease rate at a much lower percentage of all people nation wide. Please refer to the CDC directly for the study results. I think it was reported in the news in the last 10 days or so. This in no way comforts those who have lost loved ones. But do pay attention to those who are at highest risk, smokers, obese, Type A and B blood types, Diabetics, and those with underlying heart conditions (many were not diagnosed before the pandemic but postmortem studies seem to indicate more of a link). It is funny how many politicians mentioned we will only follow the science but the science was not even delivered when those statements were made. It is still early and the science is not fully developed yet! But there are signs of hope with the development of the science.
Epidemiology is the study of disease after the data is collected not in advance of the data and this is where the large variations in numbers are coming from. I am not a scientist but I do read widely...my father was the scientist not me. He had many board specialties in Medicine including an MPH in public health, Tropical medicine, Family Practice and the list goes on. He was also the principle investigator that helped to prove that smoking is indeed hazardous to your health and used the mortality records in the State of California to prove it. His studies are in fact based on Epidemiology and the original study has generated over 400 studies world wide in to lifestyle choices and mortality. So while he was alive I sat around the table with many of his peers as they discussed these very subjects.
I am not saying this is not a serious disease but that we may not know the total picture until the event is over and the data is collected.
In my opinion the media has fixated on this issue as if it was the only thing going on in the world. Not sure why but they seem to be fanning the flames of fear and anxiety around the world. It certainly has had an effect on the social unrest we are experiencing around the world according to both sociologist and psychiatrists . No matter the outcome no one was prepared or equipped to handle this particular event and to blame this person, that person or this country or that country misses the point! The point is life is a risk and we all have to manage that risk the best we can on any given day. There is a reason I do not skydive, base jump, use a wing suit or jump out of moving vehicles for fun...I manage my risk. I think we all do the same. So do the best you can and take advantage of the current science, distance, wear a mask, and wash your hands often. Believe it or not you are making choices for others and not just yourself. I think these are prudent choices and do not need the force of law just the force of personal choice and common sense.
I love all you fishy people and just hope you don't allow the current times to make you anxious or fearful. This to shall pass!
You have a growing teenager...you'll at least need the masks to launder the socks and underwear!
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I love all you fishy people and just hope you don't allow the current times to make you anxious or fearful. This to shall pass! .....love it,, @Lowell Lemon
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Many talk about the virus’ mortality rate, and it is important, but there is something else that really concerns me. I know several people personally who have had the disease and lived. However, months later they still have heart or lung damage. No one can tell them for sure (as Lowell said it is too early), but this damage may be permanent.
Those I have spoken with with lingering pain and issues are in the age range of 35 to 65. None of these people had major medical conditions before, except the 65 year old did have hypertension. I am no doctor nor do I play one in this forum, but these are real people I know still in pain.
Another thing that concerns me is a growing speculation that immunity from this virus is more like the common cold. Short lived, perhaps only a month or two.
It is a terrible disease any way you slice it and I know I am personally being extremely safe for myself, and more so, for the people I love.
Those I have spoken with with lingering pain and issues are in the age range of 35 to 65. None of these people had major medical conditions before, except the 65 year old did have hypertension. I am no doctor nor do I play one in this forum, but these are real people I know still in pain.
Another thing that concerns me is a growing speculation that immunity from this virus is more like the common cold. Short lived, perhaps only a month or two.
It is a terrible disease any way you slice it and I know I am personally being extremely safe for myself, and more so, for the people I love.
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Let's be honest here. We all knew this could, and would happen at some point. Even historically, about every 100 years. As the world becomes a well travelled, 24/7 world, it is much more likely as well.
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This is an excellent point.
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no emoji,,,heartfelt,well spoken!!
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