Stocking order for 125 gal help

[softiesplease]

Hello, after posting previous thread and more research this is my new list for my 125 gal tank I'm planning. Wondering if this stocking grouping and order of addition for the fish is reasonable. Will be fish only. Here is the current order and grouping I have. I also wanted to add Skunk Shrimp before the melanurus wrasse but I figure eventually they will be goners and even if the ones added prior survive, adding more is likely just an expensive snack it seems after researching. Thank you.
1
Ocellaris Clownfish Pair Amphiprion ocellaris
Royal Gramma Gramma loreto
Banggai Cardinal Pterapogon kauderni
Blue Cleaner Goby Elacatinus oceanops
Green Clown Goby Gobiodon atrangulatus
Citron Clown Goby Gobiodon citrinus
Helfrichi Firefish Nemateleotris helfrichi
2
Racoon Butterfly Chaetodon lunula
Pearlscale Butterfly Chaetodon xanthurus
Exquisite Fairy Wrasse Cirrhilabrus exquisitus
Pintail Fairy Wrasse Cirrhilabrus isosceles
3
Flame Angel Centropyge loricula
Multibar Angel Paracentropyge multifasciata
4
Goldflake Angel Apolemichthys xanthopunctatus
Regal Angel (Red Sea) Pygoplites diacanthus
5
Canary Wrasse Halichoeres chrysus
Melanurus Wrasse Halichoeres melanurus
Yellow Tang Zebrasoma flavescens

 

[softiesplease]

I think my biggest question is if the Halichoeres wrasses should be in group 3 or 4 instead of 5. Not sure if adding them after the larger angels is a bad idea.

 

[softiesplease]

Bump

 

[littlefoxx]

Looks good to me, bot sure about the wrasses

 

[softiesplease]

Looks good to me, bot sure about the wrasses

Thank you hopefully a wrasse person can chime in for those. Think it’s a solid stocking list.

 

[Reefering1]

@Slocke

 

[Slocke]

Add tha canary before the melanurus. Does not matter when though.

 

[softiesplease]

Add tha canary before the melanurus. Does not matter when though.

Thank you. So maybe add the canary when I order the two dwarf angels? And keep the Melanurus at the end with the yellow tang?

 

[Tamberav]

Are all the angels captive bred?

They take awhile to grow to size and need a lot of food or a lot of natural grazing opportunities but getting them ALL captive bred will make sure they are similar size.

 

[softiesplease]

Are all the angels captive bred?

They take awhile to grow to size and need a lot of food or a lot of natural grazing opportunities.

Planning to order from Dr Reef so the flame and Red Sea regal would be wild and the Goldflake and Multibar would be captive bred.

 

[softiesplease]

Are all the angels captive bred?

They take awhile to grow to size and need a lot of food or a lot of natural grazing opportunities but getting them ALL captive bred will make sure they are similar size.

Just saw your edit. They said I could get a Biota Regal but they don’t do as well as the Red Sea through QT and ship they said. Biota also has cb flames but not sure if in production right now. So yes I could get them all CB but as they’re listed the flame and regal are wilds

 

[Tamberav]

Planning to order from Dr Reef so the flame and Red Sea regal would be wild and the Goldflake and Multibar would be captive bred.

ehh.. I would be hesitant to mix those.. my multibar was maybe quarter size or smaller. I have grown it for 2 years and I still hesitant to put my flame in with it as it would stand no chance if the flame gets mad. It is alos pretty aggressive and royal gramma has left it with nips out of its tail cuz the dang thing keeps trying to slap the gramma who is beefier.

 

[softiesplease]

ehh.. I would be hesitant to mix those.. my multibar was maybe quarter size or smaller. I have grown it for 2 years and I still hesitant to put my flame in with it as it would stand no chance if the flame gets mad. It is alos pretty aggressive and royal gramma has left it with nips out of its tail cuz the dang thing keeps trying to slap the gramma who is beefier.

If a flame angel is going to be a devil, I’d be willing to do a multicolor or flameback instead of a flame?

 

[Tamberav]

I would just order directly from Biota and condition them but not QT or have someone QT them. Little baby fish do not do well in QT with meds so Dr Reef is right imo!

Anyways I would do the captive ones first and grow them out but they grow SLOW and have high food needs. Like 4-6 feedings a day to start or tons of pods/algae to eat. A lot of people put them in their display and fail and they die.

There is an entire thread about people failing with them. Most went into the display though.

 

[Tamberav]

After about 2 years a captive multibar will be about 2 inches with 8-9 bars, I think mine has 8 right now.

 

[Tamberav]

I don't think it will matter as much if the regal is wild. The multibar is pretty different. I was more worried about other dwarfs being bigger and the captive multibar being a coin.

 

[softiesplease]

After about 2 years a captive multibar will be about 2 inches with 8-9 bars, I think mine has 8 right now.

I don't think it will matter as much if the regal is wild. The multibar is pretty different. I was more worried about other dwarfs being bigger and the captive multibar being a coin.

Gotcha. I am definitely willing and able to do small frequent feedings 4-6 times a day to get them growing. I can get them all captive bred if it’s a better idea. Multibar is one of my favorite. Definitely would be captive bred, since the wilds don’t eat well. I want the multibar over a flame. So maybe I either try and get a CB flame angel, or maybe a second CB multibar to pair them, or maybe a flame back or multicolor angel instead of a flame?

 

[Tamberav]

I think in a perfect world, I would do both dwarfs captive. The large angelfish can do either way.

I am more or less saying proceed with caution as the captives are still fragile when small and if they get bullied and spend time hiding or being chased and can’t feed, they will perish quickly. They have no fat reserves.

 

[softiesplease]

I think in a perfect world, I would do both dwarfs captive. The large angelfish can do either way.

I am more or less saying proceed with caution as the captives are still fragile.

Ok. They do have flameback captive bred, so I could do that or a captive bred multibar pair. Flame angels stunning too though so I’ll see if they would be able to even get a captive bred flame like I said no clue on the production status for those, but seems inactive. I hear you on proceed with caution

 

[softiesplease]

I think in a perfect world, I would do both dwarfs captive. The large angelfish can do either way.

I am more or less saying proceed with caution as the captives are still fragile when small and if they get bullied and spend time hiding or being chased and can’t feed, they will perish quickly. They have no fat reserves.

I will add them using an acclimation box like suggested by biota to get them to feed easier hopefully to increase chance of success