New fish not looking good

[randomfishdude]

I added this blue green cromis along with another new one and 2 I had in a 10gallon tank
I'm not sure if he is one of the new ones but I think the 2 in the pic are the new ones as the old ones one is swimming around and the other is hiding behind a rock

I will put the water Paramaters below in a few minutes
If I need to transfer him I will I do have that 10gallon still setup with snails
Thank you

 

[randomfishdude]

Ammonia: 0.3
Salinity: 0.024
Temp: 77.2
Ph: 7.7 (lower than normal)
Nitrite:0.5
Nitrate: 3

 

[tyler94]

the fact you have ammonia is not good. usually a sign of an uncycled tank. How lo9ng did you cycle the tank before adding the fish? did you use any nitrifying bacteria?

 

[randomfishdude]

A little over 2 weeks
I added a good bit of micro bacteria7
Everything was lower yesterday
Should I transfer them into a separate tank and let that tank cycle more?

Also 2 of the fish are currently swimming around
Witch were the fish I had in my other tank

 

[Tamberav]

Micro Bacter 7 is not great for cycling, just not as fast as other products. I would put in some biospira if you are going that route.

Chromis are notorious for uronema. If you see any sort of red sores develop, that would be a telltale sign. Unfortunately it puts your other healthy chromis at risk if so.

 

[randomfishdude]

the fact you have ammonia is not good. usually a sign of an uncycled tank. How lo9ng did you cycle the tank before adding the fish? did you use any nitrifying bacteria?

Micro Bacter 7 is not great for cycling, just not as fast as other products. I would put in some biospira if you are going that route.

Chromis are notorious for uronema. If you see any sort of red sores develop, that would be a telltale sign. Unfortunately it puts your other healthy chromis at risk if so.

I'm going to transfer over the 2 ones that don't look so good then and I'll leave the other 2 and watch them closely
If the 2 I leave in start doing bad I'll haft to transfer them into our 75gal display tank

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

I couldn't tell from your post, was this new fish exposed to any major increase in salinity during the move to your tank? Did it come from a store? If so, do you know their salinity?

Jay

 

[I never finish anythi]

0.024 SG .deffo a typo!!!

 

[LordofCinder]

4 fish in a 10 gallon is definately overstocked. And the tank looks brand new, it might be too much too fast.

 

[Cell]

I feel like chromis success rate isn't that great in general.

I'll also say they are very active, fast swimming fish, a 10 gallon doesn't give them much room to swim. When I used to have some, they would dart across my 4 ft tank in seconds.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I dont see a uronema issue here but question the method of acclimation.
How did you acclimate the fish and for how long?
I wouldnt say 4 are too many for a 10g but this tank appears very new and have mixed numbers suggesting you are using an API kit in which ammonia may be false. Do not worry about nitrite reading unless sky high (above 100)
Adding an airstone will help with oxygen at least temporarily as tank may be going through spikes.
Agree with Tamberav. . . Micro Bacter will help with denitrification and not offer an instant cycle which im not a fan of anyway.
Do Not add any more fish but rather take the tank to get the water right

 

[Jay Hemdal]

0.024 SG .deffo a typo!!!

That is a problem - people use "salinity" interchangeably with "specific gravity" and people tend to drop the leading 1 in specific gravity. This person wrote "0.024 salinity". I think they meant "1.024 specific gravity". However, they could also mean 24 ppt salinity.

Jay

 

[Paul B]

That is a problem - people use "salinity" interchangeably with "specific gravity" and people tend to drop the leading 1 in specific gravity. This person wrote "0.024 salinity". I think they meant "1.024 specific gravity". However, they could also mean 24 ppt salinity.

Jay

OMG now I have to go and check my salinity, or specific gravity. I don't know what it is.

 

[randomfishdude]

Oops on the typo

I did get the 2 new fish from my lfs
The stores Salinity is 1.024 so they're both the same Salinity
I only moved the 2 new fish into the 10gal. They are the only 2 that aren't looking good as the ones that used to be in the 10gal are currently swimming around in the tank looking for food.
I'm not expecting much of a ammonia spike or really anythang from my little 10gallon because I basically took out 2 cromis then waited over night then added 2 cromis.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Oops on the typo

I did get the 2 new fish from my lfs
The stores Salinity is 1.024 so they're both the same Salinity
I only moved the 2 new fish into the 10gal. They are the only 2 that aren't looking good as the ones that used to be in the 10gal are currently swimming around in the tank looking for food.
I'm not expecting much of a ammonia spike or really anythang from my little 10gallon because I basically took out 2 cromis then waited over night then added 2 cromis.
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When a tank is new, removing two fish are not going to prevent potential spikes. There are scrapes all over the body of one of them in added bottom pic which may be from scratching and I see possible bruise behind fin which may be irritant

 

[randomfishdude]

When a tank is new, removing two fish are not going to prevent potential spikes. There are scrapes all over the body of one of them in added bottom pic which may be from scratching and I see possible bruise behind fin which may be irritant

I meant spikes in the 10 gal
But the fish didn't look like that 2 hours ago

 

[randomfishdude]

Now it's getting black spots?!?!

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Oops on the typo

I did get the 2 new fish from my lfs
The stores Salinity is 1.024 so they're both the same Salinity
I only moved the 2 new fish into the 10gal. They are the only 2 that aren't looking good as the ones that used to be in the 10gal are currently swimming around in the tank looking for food.
I'm not expecting much of a ammonia spike or really anythang from my little 10gallon because I basically took out 2 cromis then waited over night then added 2 cromis.
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The one under the rock is showing its stress colors and it seems to have some damaged scales. It may have just been mishandled along the way.

If I understand - you got four fish and two aren't doing well. With these chromis, that is about par for the course - I often lose about half of a group of chromis despite my best efforts. Personally, I've just stopped getting green chromis....for as common as they are in the trade, they just are not very hardy.

Jay

 

[randomfishdude]

The one under the rock is showing its stress colors and it seems to have some damaged scales. It may have just been mishandled along the way.

If I understand - you got four fish and two aren't doing well. With these chromis, that is about par for the course - I often lose about half of a group of chromis despite my best efforts. Personally, I've just stopped getting green chromis....for as common as they are in the trade, they just are not very hardy.

Jay

I've definately learned that.
I've had quite alot of death in our main display tank that's 75 gallons.
I've had 2 sets of clownfish doe in that tank but now everything's pretty good.
I think that there's and issue with the store we got thoes 2 cromis from.
We haven't had much luck with it.
As our first 2 clownfish we got from then had ich that decided not to come up until 3 days after we added them into the display tank.(4 weeks in a qt first)
Then along with thoes 2 cromis I got also had the cleanershrimp from that store just die.

While we did go to another fish store first to get a pair of clown and they're doing just fine.
So I'm probobly not going to go to that first one I was talking about.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Now it's getting black spots?!?!

Bloack spots from stress and the fish appears to be moribund which is past weak and will likely not make. Chromis are nice looking fish but come with shipping issues, weak stock and when healthy will fight- Just cant win.