My tomini tang

[40g Nano]

Tiny white dots on him, no scratching, and lethargic, and bumps

seems to have emerged over the past few days, only visible on fins, but now all over body

doesn’t really look like ich, no signs on other fish except a clown who is a little lethargic

 

[Dcal]

Pics would help if you can get some

 

[40g Nano]

he doesn’t like the camera

 

[40g Nano]

Anything I could try that is reef safe?
Ruby reef rally pro?
Prazipro?

 

[40g Nano]

The lethargy for was a little bit in the morning, not anymore.

just light small white spots and some bumps

normal respiration

 

[40g Nano]

Still eating great, acting normal except lethargy(looks like he is looking around everywhere) in the morning, but just the white dots. No scratching

 

[JumboShrimp]

I'm afraid the most help will come from a good photo (showing the spots); a picture tells a thousand words. Best wishes!

 

[resortez]

Pictures would be of great help in IDing the type of infection. By your discerption it sounds like ich, if so, I’ve had good success with Ruby reef. To assist with the recovery, I recommend seachem metro, focus & garlic guard combo. Feed plenty of seaweed to fortify the tangs immunity. Also a bit of background on the system, parameters, tank mates, history on the fish would help in suggesting how to combat the infection. If possible, bump temps to 82, drop salinity to a hypo salinity treatment if there aren’t any animals that will severely get affected by those changes. If you can get your hands on a cleaner wrasse, get one. If it’s still feeding but looking lethargic, could be some type of internal parasitic protozoan, the reason for the seachem combo. Hope it helps.

 

[40g Nano]

Pictures would be of great help in IDing the type of infection. By your discerption it sounds like ich, if so, I’ve had good success with Ruby reef. To assist with the recovery, I recommend seachem metro, focus & garlic guard combo. Feed plenty of seaweed to fortify the tangs immunity. Also a bit of background on the system, parameters, tank mates, history on the fish would help in suggesting how to combat the infection. If possible, bump temps to 82, drop salinity to a hypo salinity treatment if there aren’t any animals that will severely get affected by those changes. If you can get your hands on a cleaner wrasse, get one. If it’s still feeding but looking lethargic, could be some type of internal parasitic protozoan, the reason for the seachem combo. Hope it helps.

Thanks!
Went ahead and bought kick ich from ruby reef and plan on using that in combination with ruby reef rally pro

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Without pictures, it is REALLY tough to say, but based on your description, it sounds like Cryptocaryon, ich. Kick Ich and Rally Pro may work if the disease is still in its very early stages, but once it gets advanced to the point where the fish have 20-40 spots, you really need to move the fish to a treatment tank and dose with copper.

If you can't get still pictures, we can sometimes diagnose from a short video...

Jay

 

[40g Nano]

Sorry for the bad pics but here

looks more like ich now
Not sure if it is the lighting or what

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Yes, third photo down, left pectoral fin, does look like ich.
Jay

 

[40g Nano]

Yes, third photo down, left pectoral fin, does look like ich.
Jay

So should I do treatment for the heavy infestation?

the most spots are on the pectoral fins, and a couple on the body

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Yes, from what I can see, I think you should treat them in a hospital tank with copper.

 

[40g Nano]

What is the best copper for tangs?
Some are sensitive and I would like to know if this plan falls through

 

[Jay Hemdal]

What is the best copper for tangs?
Some are sensitive and I would like to know if this plan falls through

Coppersafe with a Hanna checker is my favorite way to go.
Jay

 

[40g Nano]

Coppersafe with a Hanna checker is my favorite way to go.
Jay

Is there any accurate test kit for that one that isn’t Hanna?
thanks

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Is there any accurate test kit for that one that isn’t Hanna?
thanks

Not really. The API kit is really hard to read and the Salifert kit is really only for copper/citric acid. The Seachem test is probably the best of the lot. You can run coppersafe with no test kit as long as you know the EXACT water volume that you are treating.

Jay

 

[40g Nano]

Not really. The API kit is really hard to read and the Salifert kit is really only for copper/citric acid. The Seachem test is probably the best of the lot. You can run coppersafe with no test kit as long as you know the EXACT water volume that you are treating.

Jay

Thanks
So it seems that the trophonts? have dropped off of the fish now. Is that when this medication attacks it?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Thanks
So it seems that the trophonts? have dropped off of the fish now. Is that when this medication attacks it?

The trophonts drop off and form tomonts. Over time, these release tiny theronts that swarm to reinfect the fish, it is that stage that copper can kill. I think the full life cycle, with timing, is in the stickies section above.

Jay