Lobo not still not doing good

[seeky007]

Any help with my lobo what do you lot think

parameters
Alk 9.1
Cal 430
Mag 1520
Sal 34ppt
no3 1.9
Po4 0.32

I am treating alage with flux rx but this has been going on for a while now iv never been happy with the way it is from the start
Iv tried it in low light,higher light ,feeding not feeding.changing flow

 

[VintageReefer]

Does it smell like rotten milk/eggs ?

 

[seeky007]

Does it smell like rotten milk/eggs ?

No I dip it yesterday and I didn't notice and smell like that.

 

[VintageReefer]

Lobo tends to like low flow and light, I have several. One is medium light high flow and happy. Another is low light low flow and happy. I bought a third and had it everywhere and it is looking like yours. Receded and pale. Skeletal ridges on the outside. I asked an expert and was given advice which I’m taking and told it could take months to recover. Basically when bleached any amount of light can be damaging and I was told put in the lowest light section of the tank and target feed until improvement.

 

[ChiCity]

i think your culprit is staring at you in the picture,
if you feed your lobo that is…

 

[seeky007]

Lobo tends to like low flow and light, I have several. One is medium light high flow and happy. Another is low light low flow and happy. I bought a third and had it everywhere and it is looking like yours. Receded and pale. Skeletal ridges on the outside. I asked an expert and was given advice which I’m taking and told it could take months to recover. Basically when bleached any amount of light can be damaging and I was told put in the lowest light section of the tank and target feed until improvement.

Thanks for the advice I can move it under a overhang it would be in shade

 

[seeky007]

i think your culprit is staring at you in the picture,
if you feed your lobo that is…

You think it ticked because of the shrimp.it is a pain when I do feed it apart from that it leaves it alone

 

[VintageReefer]

Shrimps are opportunistic feeders and have been known to remove food from corals mouths, and in some cases, even from their stomachs. They smell the food and dig and pick to get to it.

It might help to put a cage over the lobo for a while to prevent the shrimp from having access to the lobo. A fish isolation box could protect it and then watch for improvement

 

[seeky007]

Shrimps are opportunistic feeders and have been known to remove food from corals mouths, and in some cases, even from their stomachs. They smell the food and dig and pick to get to it.

It might help to put a cage over the lobo for a while to prevent the shrimp from having access to the lobo. A fish isolation box could protect it and then watch for improvement

Thanks for the advice il have a look and see what's about will it be a diy thing or could I buy one

 

[VintageReefer]

I will paste the reply I was given from an expert in care of lobo. With high experience with wild caught / imported specimens


Hello,

Based upon the photos that you sent, the Symphyllia is indeed bleaching, The first thing that you want to do is inspect the edges of the coral & the bottom of the skeleton to make sure there are no razor clams or pests like worms, vermited snails or anything else that could possibly bother it. You can also dip the coral to see if anything comes off, preferably in iodine or Revive so that the coral does not stress out more. After dipping the coral, place it in the darkest part of your tank for a couple of weeks or until the color starts to come back & don’t forget to target feed it so that it recovers faster.

When a coral is bleached, even medium lighting can cause it to stress out and continue to bleach. In a couple of weeks, if you see the color return, you can slowly introduce it back to the light.

Lobophyllia & Symphyllia will typically have Razor Clams inside of the skeleton. These clams will die off & when this happens, the gases from the rotting clam escape through the flesh of the coral, causing it to bleach. I also notice that you have your Symphyllia in the sand bed. Sometimes, fish or a pump can stir some of the sand onto the corals & then the sand can also cause the coral to bleach if not removed in time. This is because the coral will ingest the sand, thinking that it is food. You can buy a turkey baster and blow the sand off the coral to keep it clean if that’s the case. Another possibility would be that it got stung by another coral with long sweepers that is nearby.

Medium lighting and medium water flow are ideal for Lobophyllia & Symphyllia.

 

[seeky007]

I will paste the reply I was given from an expert in care of lobo. With high experience with wild caught / imported specimens


Hello,

Based upon the photos that you sent, the Symphyllia is indeed bleaching, The first thing that you want to do is inspect the edges of the coral & the bottom of the skeleton to make sure there are no razor clams or pests like worms, vermited snails or anything else that could possibly bother it. You can also dip the coral to see if anything comes off, preferably in iodine or Revive so that the coral does not stress out more. After dipping the coral, place it in the darkest part of your tank for a couple of weeks or until the color starts to come back & don’t forget to target feed it so that it recovers faster.

When a coral is bleached, even medium lighting can cause it to stress out and continue to bleach. In a couple of weeks, if you see the color return, you can slowly introduce it back to the light.

Lobophyllia & Symphyllia will typically have Razor Clams inside of the skeleton. These clams will die off & when this happens, the gases from the rotting clam escape through the flesh of the coral, causing it to bleach. I also notice that you have your Symphyllia in the sand bed. Sometimes, fish or a pump can stir some of the sand onto the corals & then the sand can also cause the coral to bleach if not removed in time. This is because the coral will ingest the sand, thinking that it is food. You can buy a turkey baster and blow the sand off the coral to keep it clean if that’s the case. Another possibility would be that it got stung by another coral with long sweepers that is nearby.

Medium lighting and medium water flow are ideal for Lobophyllia & Symphyllia.

Thanks ever so much much appreciated

 

[VintageReefer]

This is mine. It is in a shaded back corner while I await recovery. I have dipped, placed on a stand out of the sand and attempt to target feed but it doesn’t always eat.

Used to look like this

 

[seeky007]

This is mine. It is in a shaded back corner while I await recovery. I have dipped, placed on a stand out of the sand and attempt to target feed but it doesn’t always eat.

The only place I have good shade would be if I moved the lobo back a bit yiu can see the shade in the pic do you think this would suffice

 

[VintageReefer]

To be honest I am not sure. I even reduced all my lighting 10% to try and help the lobo and I usually wouldn’t make a change to the entire system but I do want to help it recover

All my others are fine and I wonder if this has internal issues unrelated to lighting and parameters

 

[seeky007]

To be honest I am not sure. I even reduced all my lighting 10% to try and help the lobo and I usually wouldn’t make a change to the entire system but I do want to help it recover

All my others are fine and I wonder if this has internal issues unrelated to lighting and parameters

I did the same I lowered my light went from 80% max to 60% I have orphek natura icon light

 

[VintageReefer]

Here are my other lobo, wellso, symphyllia - they are all similar coral with the same system requirements

Hard to see but there is a orange/green lobo under the bright green torch and it is poofy and happy

 

[VintageReefer]

I use reefbreeders photon 48 and reduced down to 30% max but felt that was too low for my other corals and now am at 40%

At this power, my lobo having issues is probably in 25-50 par max

It has been over 2 weeks and I do not see improvement yet

 

[seeky007]

I will paste the reply I was given from an expert in care of lobo. With high experience with wild caught / imported specimens


Hello,

Based upon the photos that you sent, the Symphyllia is indeed bleaching, The first thing that you want to do is inspect the edges of the coral & the bottom of the skeleton to make sure there are no razor clams or pests like worms, vermited snails or anything else that could possibly bother it. You can also dip the coral to see if anything comes off, preferably in iodine or Revive so that the coral does not stress out more. After dipping the coral, place it in the darkest part of your tank for a couple of weeks or until the color starts to come back & don’t forget to target feed it so that it recovers faster.

When a coral is bleached, even medium lighting can cause it to stress out and continue to bleach. In a couple of weeks, if you see the color return, you can slowly introduce it back to the light.

Lobophyllia & Symphyllia will typically have Razor Clams inside of the skeleton. These clams will die off & when this happens, the gases from the rotting clam escape through the flesh of the coral, causing it to bleach. I also notice that you have your Symphyllia in the sand bed. Sometimes, fish or a pump can stir some of the sand onto the corals & then the sand can also cause the coral to bleach if not removed in time. This is because the coral will ingest the sand, thinking that it is food. You can buy a turkey baster and blow the sand off the coral to keep it clean if that’s the case. Another possibility would be that it got stung by another coral with long sweepers that is nearby.

Medium lighting and medium water flow are ideal for Lobophyllia & Symphyllia.

Just an update I have placed the lobo in the cave

 

[Mr. Acantho]

Here are my other lobo, wellso, symphyllia - they are all similar coral with the same system requirements

Hard to see but there is a orange/green lobo under the bright green torch and it is poofy and happy

Your pictures look great

What kind of camera & lense?

 

[ChrisfromBrick]

i have one and it loves everything it is not supposed to. It loves high light and super strong flow. I had it in the sand bed and it started to bleach on me. It is a happy coral now.

Try the unconventional way and see if it works. Never had it care about the water being dirty either.