List of zoas your fish ate and survived

[Coralnotquarrel]

Hi. I've read many of the zoa threads and articles about palytoxin. Saw one thread about an angelfish eating zoas and wanted to take it a step further...

Imagine if a fish ate a zoa colony without adverse issue, that's info to suggest that variety may be "safer" with less level of poison? Would a thread of anecdotal examples of safely eaten zoas provide some guidance for those who want to select out some named varieties over others? Not perfect, especially given the whimsical and arbitrary names of most varieties sold but maybe one way to help those looking for more specific guidances?

 

[blaxsun]

I'll let you know when they finish off my last zoa/paly colony...

 

[Seansea]

Maybe immmunity? Kind of like mongoose with some cobra immunity?

 

[ninjamyst]

Foxface and blue hippo tang will eat zoas. Mine loved all the yellow ones....king midas, scramble eggs, rastas

 

[Seansea]

Foxface and blue hippo tang will eat zoas. Mine loved all the yellow ones....king midas, scramble eggs, rastas

Jeez those are some pretty nice zoas that get mashed

 

[ninjamyst]

Jeez those are some pretty nice zoas that get mashed

Naw those are cheap zoas. $10 a frag from most vendors

 

[Coralnotquarrel]

Maybe immmunity? Kind of like mongoose with some cobra immunity?

I'm not quite sure how fish immunity works. I'm thinking palytoxin is one of those "a drop can kill ###people" that a small fish biting off a tentacle can do it in before the antibodies have a chance to form??

 

[Coralnotquarrel]

Foxface and blue hippo tang will eat zoas. Mine loved all the yellow ones....king midas, scramble eggs, rastas

Sorry to hear about that. Hope they weren't your favorites. Some people like bacon bits in their salad, I guess these herbivores like some protein with their algae...

 

[ninjamyst]

Sorry to hear about that. Hope they weren't your favorites. Some people like bacon bits in their salad, I guess these herbivores like some protein with their algae...

I kept the fish and the zoas. I grow zoas fast enough to outcompete their nipping =P

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Hi. I've read many of the zoa threads and articles about palytoxin. Saw one thread about an angelfish eating zoas and wanted to take it a step further...

Imagine if a fish ate a zoa colony without adverse issue, that's info to suggest that variety may be "safer" with less level of poison? Would a thread of anecdotal examples of safely eaten zoas provide some guidance for those who want to select out some named varieties over others? Not perfect, especially given the whimsical and arbitrary names of most varieties sold but maybe one way to help those looking for more specific guidances?

Palytoxin does not affect fish.

"While palytoxin has no effect on worms, crustaceans and fish, who feed on the zoanthids, the toxin can bioaccumulate and cause poisoning in humans after fish and crustacean consumption"

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[Tnops]

Palytoxin does not affect fish.

"While palytoxin has no effect on worms, crustaceans and fish, who feed on the zoanthids, the toxin can bioaccumulate and cause poisoning in humans after fish and crustacean consumption"

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is there any evolutionary reason for it to be potentially toxic to certain organisms or is it just a coincidence that monkeys who handle them have a chance to end up in the ER?

 

[ISpeakForTheSeas]

Palytoxin does not affect fish.

"While palytoxin has no effect on worms, crustaceans and fish, who feed on the zoanthids, the toxin can bioaccumulate and cause poisoning in humans after fish and crustacean consumption"

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Just to add to this, not all fish are impacted by the same toxins to the same degree. For example, some angelfish are known to intentionally eat things (like loggerhead sponges) that are reportedly highly (lethally) toxic to many other fish. Additionally, many species (including fish, inverts, etc.) eat things that are confirmedly toxic to humans without any adverse effects because of how the toxins work (this is why the mongoose and cobra immunity/resistance example above is actually a pretty good one - cobra venom would kill a human, but because of how it works, a mongoose has a high tolerance for it and would be fine after taking a bite from a cobra).